No worries mate, that's what I'm here for haha!
I've looked and wow, that looks really good. Now I can use that next time
instead of digging up forum posts and emails!
That "Please, tell if everything worked!" part should probably include a link
to somewhere on the forum so people can respond. Not sure where.. but without
comment functionality we gotta give interested people like Boby and others that
drop by some sort of easy way to reply. The dev list email is another link
alternative? (although spammers might grab it)
Anyway I look forward to reading "The Hidden Story Of The Website Update!"
hahaha. ;)
Regards
Blake
On Monday, 6 July 2020, 05:46:34 am ACST, win...@genial.ms
<win...@genial.ms> wrote:
You are right, the news is up! Take a look, please!I decided to do the Jekyll
guide first, then write about the website update later. I guess, it got myself
into writing a whole series, as the directory structure, the file structure
with the yaml header and maybe more could be explained. Thanks for motivating
me Blake! wintertime Gesendet: Sonntag, 05. Juli 2020 um 18:58 Uhr
Von: "D Blakeley" <d_blake...@yahoo.com>
An: "win...@genial.ms" <win...@genial.ms>
Cc: freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net, "Jamaica Boby"
<testejars...@gmail.com>
Betreff: Re: [Freecol-developers] Web update Well you 'control the news' mate
so you can put whatever date you want on it haha. ;) Just backdate it a month
or 2 so its still newer than that other news item about the freecol
vulnerability and I doubt anyone will notice or complain. They'll just think
their browser cache hadn't updated last time they visited or something lol.
I'll get around to writing up those other news items sooner or later, but
obviously your work on the site is the one thing I can't write up as only you
know and understand everything you did so no one else can write it up better.
Oh and when the time comes I'll no doubt have to ask for your help on making
sure I correctly add the news items. I haven't really looked at it properly
though so for I know it'll be easy and I won't need help thanks to your
conversion of the news section. Regards Blake On Monday, 6 July 2020,
02:01:47 am ACST, win...@genial.ms <win...@genial.ms> wrote: Hi, you are
right, I regret not putting up a news item on the website update. At first I
had no time and then it seemed too late? From looking at the pictures, I did
not see any examples of new content? It just seems to be changing the design
while not updating any content? I apologize in advance, but I have to say the
current version of the new design does look much less sophisticated than the
old one and reminds me of every other page made in recent years, without
anything unique that stands out.
It also seems inconsistent in the background colors jumping from dark grey to
white and back.
Part of a word from the menu line on the index page being on the different
background looks bad and lowers readability.
On most of the other pages, half of a full HD screen is wasted with the header
banner picture, making the viewers scroll down needlessly much, if they care to.
Would you tell more about why you think you need Bootstrap, as I do not see
anything in the mockup that requires introducing another framework? I know
about bootstrap, it is mostly just for button and menu styling, but it comes
with 2 Javascript frameworks. Also, I dislike that bootstrap moves the styling
commands back into HTML, when the whole reason to have CSS is to have the
styling done separately. I anticipate problems with this when using Markdown
for new content, as naturally there is no HTML attributes to put bootstrap
styles. As we have and need no Ajax, I see no need for JQuery, which IMHO is
obsoleted by modern Javascript anyways. Then there is popper.js, but these
overlays which move in the way of seeing the content when scrolling are mostly
just distracting the viewer from the information they would like to see.
I know the current website does not fit well on a mobile screen, but I'd hope
someone with time for it could just tweek the CSS a bit. As FreeCol is played
on desktop, I'd think, most people viewing it are on a computer and not on
mobile, anyway. Speaking from a project management perspective: Doing a rewrite
may seem like a more fun thing when starting it, but when thinking more
thoroughly about it a rewrite on an already existing project is rarely the
right thing to do. Incremental updates are much faster and in case something
happens causing people to have less time, the project still got an improvement,
not just something that is unusable/halfdone. Additionally, rewrites usually
get less fun the more complete they are. Regards wintertime Gesendet:
Sonntag, 05. Juli 2020 um 14:37 Uhr
Von: "D Blakeley via Freecol-developers"
<freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net>
An: freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net, "Jamaica Boby"
<testejars...@gmail.com>
Betreff: Re: [Freecol-developers] Web update When I saw your first email Bobby
I thought to myself "Winter is going to LOOOOVE this (sarcasm) as he only just
finished overhauling and updating the entire site already hahaha". ;) I'm
pretty sure I suggested this a whole back but Winter you probably should have
made a news item about the website overhaul being released and talked a bit
about what you did so the public actually KNOW about all the hard work you put
into it in the backend since in the frontend people aren't really going to
notice as things still look the same. Which also means the site still has that
'abandoned look' due to the lack of news items and new multimedia content. I
was thinking of making up a news item about the recent big map pack addition as
that's pretty cool news! Also a news items about us regaining control over the
FreeCol moddb page might be another news item to chuck in! That news page needs
some more content!
Blakeley also said he would like to work on the website content a while ago,
maybe you could try to coordinate.
==> How can I contact him? Slightly misunderstanding on this bit. My plans are
to simply add new up to date screenshots to the screenshot section and make a
new videos page similar to the screenshot one. Overhauling the whole site is
not of interest to me, plus I don't have the skills for that as I'm not a
programmer like you guys are, I just know a bit of basic html. So I'm
unfortunately I'm not much help to you Bobby, sorry mate. I should also say
that the whole recent map saga massively delayed my plans to do that new
screenshots and videos section stuff, and now I'm busy with other stuff but
I'll get to it eventually lol! Regards Blake On Sunday, 5 July 2020, 09:33:11
pm ACST, Jamaica Boby <testejars...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi!! I have a little
skill of english, sorry if i can't explain better :S
I would guess, up until now you actually just did some mockup pictures using
some tool, but did not do anything for the real website? I'd be happy to
comment on them if you could show pictures big enough to be readable.
Please use this other link, and use bottom navigation
https://www.figma.com/proto/r1RUrbFES8HCTEjmgJDpCx/Desktop-Website?node-id=18%3A91&scaling=min-zoom
Or you can use the "present" button on the right of login button on the
original link (it's like a triangle
icon)https://www.figma.com/file/r1RUrbFES8HCTEjmgJDpCx/Desktop-Website
(original link)==> we expect your comments!
I would guess, up until now you actually just did some mockup pictures using
some tool, but did not do anything for the real website?
Exactly! We are working on the mockup. We haven't written any html or css yet
We never used jekyll, but apparently this will not be a problem, but we really
need to combine with bootstrap, in order to make it mobile friendly and
facilitate workBootstrap is a library of css and javascript to facilitate the
construction of web pages and their visualization in multiple browsers
Bootstrap is widely used in the web worldI see that is possible to use
bootstrap with
Jekyllhttps://medium.com/better-programming/an-introduction-to-using-jekyll-with-bootstrap-4-6f2433afeda9==>
Can we combine with jekyll?
Somewhere on the forum is a posting where I explain how to work with Jekyll and
locally compile and test the website, which I'd liked to add to the
documentation
I will take a look!
Easiest might be if you take a look at how current pages are done and then
start small and send pull requests
I will take a look too!
Blakeley also said he would like to work on the website content a while ago,
maybe you could try to coordinate.
==> How can I contact him? Greetings
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