Thanks for proposing something. I don't mean to ask for an immediate 
solution to this issue. And I know the [dev] resources are low.

If I can find some time to do it, I would like to investigate why it is 
slow. ms-dos was written in assembly until ms-dos 4, however they kept 
much of it after that and as I said, ms-dos 6.22 works much faster on an 
XT. Is freedos written in assembly as well ?

Also, as mentionned years ago on this list, I might have tested it with 
some useless extenders enabled by default. So I think there is room for 
investigation.

Actually, the whole reflexion started when I saw this ODIN stuff. My 
first reaction was "oh ? there's a specific 8086 Freedos distro called 
ODIN ?" But now I see it's not very well maintained.

Do you know if there is any 5"1/4 image of Freedos with a sort of 
minimal set of features available ?

EF

Le 26.05.2015 16:43, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU a écrit :
> If it is slow..then..hmm.Perhaps we could somehow size down the memory 
> block usage of all the FreeDOS calls/programs?Just tossing around 
> ideas,as it would be cool to know someone is using an OS that can be 
> used on modern and old PC's.(It's kind of the same thing as saying I 
> can use windows 8 on a commodore VIC 20.It would be nice to know we 
> reached that goal.).
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Steve Nickolas <usots...@buric.co 
> <mailto:usots...@buric.co>> wrote:
>
>     On Tue, 26 May 2015, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU wrote:
>
>     > Microsoft's COMMAND.COM <http://COMMAND.COM> is not as
>     great.Since when did it include two
>     > different memory versions (4dos)?FreeDOS includes extra commands
>     that are
>     > built in,such as BEEP,SOUND,and a few other batch commands.As for
>     > compatibility with older computers,why not use their original
>     OS?There are
>     > many archives online that have original zipped copies of
>     MS-DOS.FreeDOS (As
>     > far as I know) is built for the more modern era (90's+).Before this
>     > time,computers didn't follow a standard hardware layout.One
>     computer had a
>     > floppy port and no harddrive,and another required a master boot
>     disk to
>     > boot.As for the WHY,some peopel just like vintage hardware.I
>     do.Perhaps we
>     > could modify the original MS-DOS source,to keep it compatible
>     with he
>     > original 8086 machine,while adding more features?
>     > Regards,
>     > -Jayden
>
>     FreeDOS was, at least originally, intended to be a replacement and
>     successor to said original DOS.  Even MS-DOS 6.22 and PC DOS 7.0
>     still ran
>     on 5160s and Tandy 1000s.
>
>     I think these days there's more of an attitude of FreeDOS being
>     mainly for
>     use in VMs, rather than on metal.  A shame, really.
>
>     Personally, I went back to PC DOS - mainly because things always
>     worked
>     the way I expected them to (something not really true with FreeDOS).
>
>     I don't think *my* goal of what *I* want out of FreeDOS is shared
>     by most
>     of the developers, so generally, I've stayed out of conversations
>     while I
>     watch what goes on.  To be honest, I think "works like MS-DOS 3.3,
>     has the
>     better hardware support of DOS 6, and some of the useful features
>     from DOS
>     6, while still staying true to its roots as an OS for *8088* PCs"
>     is what
>     I want - rather than mainly as an emulation mode for newer
>     machines - and
>     since the latter seems to be the preferred direction around here,
>     I don't
>     think my input is very much desired or desirable, so I don't say much.
>
>     The benefit of FreeDOS is that it's *free* - and not free as in "arr,
>     matey".
>
>     -uso.
>
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