The link below should have been the second one.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/afuol3h33en8d9i/LOGICAL.png?dl=1 ________________________________ From: richardkolacz...@hotmail.com <richardkolacz...@hotmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, 26 April 2022 4:42 AM To: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers. <freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] Re: How to access all drives on USB stick Hi Willi Thank you for your reply. I just did a quick test in FreeDOS, using fDISK, and now experimenting with "Logical Drives" . The dropbox links are screenshots is the stage I got up to. I may have to "wipe" the two Windows 10 partitions (F:, G:) I made previously (that's OK - as this is all "experimental" for me in the learning process). Similarly I may have to alter my FDauto.bat (due to conflict with pre-named RAM drives- that's also OK). I have not yet rebooted into freeDOS (this email computer is the computer that I USB BOOT FreeDOS) - at this stage I do not work in Virtual mode at all - only bare metal mode on a fairly recent computer. I think I will have to format the two "new" logical drives - not sure. I think I approached the problem the wrong way by involving Windows in creating the last two partitions of the USB stick. I am still trying to figure out the "proper way" to create a "new" question for this mailing list - I gather that it is NOT via the ticket system, Feature/Bug report, or BTTR forum. I better get to bed now (almost sunrise here), will continue after some sleep. https://www.dropbox.com/s/za5xscc4qlc9mo3/PRIMARY.png?dl=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/za5xscc4qlc9mo3/PRIMARY.png?dl=1 Many thanks Richard ________________________________ From: Wilhelm Spiegl <wilhelm.spi...@mail.com> Sent: Tuesday, 26 April 2022 3:38 AM To: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers. <freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] Re: How to access all drives on USB stick Hi, I could try to explain you how fdisk, sys and format work together, but as i would need some time to write all this - and maybe you are not interested in this a little bit more complex system, i would say, lets start from the windows side. plug i the stick under windows, open explorer with win button+e, cklick on the usb drive letters with right mouse button and then properties. you should find informations about size in mb/gb/tb. you should also find informations about the filesystems in this window. fat12 or fat16 or fat32 or ntfs. note these values and tell me them and the whole size of the stick. then try disk management to find out which of these drive letters are primary partitions. to open it enter win-key +r, a window should open, then type diskmgmt.msc<http://diskmgmt.msc> . google, you will see that this is nothing criminal. wait a while and then you should see all harddrives. take a screenshot of the usb stick and send it together with the values mentioned above. i assume either one of the partitions is to big or too small or ntfs formatted. if you try fdisk from freedos, simply start from bottom to top, choose the correct hd/stick, and try to find out how many primary partitions are set on the stick. freedos supports a maximum of 4 PRIMARY partitions, but more if you use an extended partition and logical drives inside. please a screenshot too. Willi -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android Mobiltelefon mit mail.com<http://mail.com> Mail gesendet. Am 25.04.22, 16:59 schrieb "richardkolacz...@hotmail.com" <richardkolacz...@hotmail.com>: I have a FreeDOS BOOT USB stick with 5 partitions (C:, D:, E:, F:, G:) where the C: partition (512 MB) is the FreeDOS stuff and the other 4 were created via Freedos as an option by me. So far, I can only see the first three in freeDOS - Windows 10 can see all 5 partitions (drives) on this USB stick (and I have files on all five partitions). How, in FreeDOS, can I access/use the last two drives? Richard ________________________________ From: Mark Olesen <markjole...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, 25 April 2022 2:48 PM To: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers. <freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] Update on website usability test Jim, I want to thank you for taking the work of Pat and carrying it on. You are not underappreciated. Especially all the developers, translators, etc. I was not understating what you have done. I was just implying that it is and never has been an easy to use OS for a novice. Your bullets prove that (I read that before). Bullet number 4 (four) is important but not for the survival of the OS. It would not attract new users. Platforms have changed. The compute of things has and is evolving to abstract. Nobody is going to care what hardware is running just as long as it can run your software --- just as FreeDOS is relying on Emulators; very few bare metal systems. FreeDOS might be embedded on a SOc to deploy firmware. However, the future of it for gaming is bleak. Nobody teaches this stuff anymore. On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 8:51 PM Jim Hall <jh...@freedos.org> wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 8:37 PM Mark Olesen <markjole...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Just to chime in. Technically, FreeDOS is not for the novice. I > > wouldn't expect my wife or daughter to be able to install it and then > > figure out what to do with a prompt. > > > > Therefore, I suggest you try and understand your user base and gear it > > towards those individuals instead of trying to make it appear (mask) > > as a user friendly OS. > > > > > As a reminder, we conducted a user survey in 2021 to understand who > was using FreeDOS today. Quoting from the end of the survey page on > the wiki: (data is at the top of the page) > > > http://wiki.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/Survey/2021 > > [..] > > 4. What is your level of DOS experience? > > > > Not surprising to me, since I get a lot of emails from folks who clearly > > are experiencing DOS for the first time. > > > > I can see three "plateaus" in this chart: "beginner user" (6% are 1-3) > > "some experience" (25% are 4-6) and "more experienced" (68% are 7-10). > > > > My big takeaways from this survey are: > > > > (1) Most people use FreeDOS in 2021 for playing DOS games, running other > > DOS apps (work or home), writing new DOS programs, and doing some kind of > > "system" work (updating BIOS, testing systems, recovering systems). > > > > (2) A lot of people boot FreeDOS in a virtual machine, but there's a > > sizeable community of folks who run FreeDOS on actual hardware (such as > > "classic" collectors with XT/AT/'386/etc, and people running on post-2000 > > PC hardware). > > > > (3) Most (all?) who boot FreeDOS in a virtual machine are probably > > running a "FreeDOS-dedicated" virtual machine. If you're running FreeDOS > > on physical hardware, I'd guess you're probably dual-booting. > > > > (4) Most of the people who use FreeDOS are more experienced, but we > > shouldn't forget the "beginner" users or those with "some experience." > > > I mentioned in another thread when I first talked about the website > update that one of the reasons for the website refresh was to "head > off" some of the emails I get from new users asking for help. For > example, "I downloaded FreeDOS, how do I use it" or "can I run FreeDOS > on my Raspberry Pi" or "what do I type" or "what can I do with > FreeDOS." These folks have never used DOS before, but somehow found > out about FreeDOS and want to try it out. My guess is they discovered > FreeDOS by reading an article about it (I sometimes write about > FreeDOS for Opensource.com or other places) and/or are university > students learning about operating systems. > > My goal with the website refresh has been to first come up with a > design that works well for these "some experience" users, and that > also benefits the "expert" users. For the mock-up website that went to > usability testing, I thought the design was balanced for intermediate > and expert, with more help for intermediate users, with the assumption > that more expert users could get the rest of the way. > > Jim > > > _______________________________________________ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel _______________________________________________ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel _______________________________________________ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
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