+1 for terminal and runtime.
Hi Jim, hi all,
I fear to embarrass myself, but I have this account for in about 15 years now - and forgotten the access data. My problem is that I am not very trained in this mailing lists,
and I do not like them, because hundreds of people notice it if I tell an absolutely bullshit - or I send a mail to everyone that is not thought
for everyone - or send a response via an absolutely different theme. All this already happened to me several times.
My main problem is, that I can answer via mail, but I have absolutely forgotten how to create a new thread. (now a lot of users will laugh...)
Simply changing the "Subject" seems not to be the solution. This are some of the reasons why I prefer sending mails directly.
And sourceforge site itself does not make it simpler.
I created a new account fritz_mueller - but then I was lost in sourceforge jungle. There is a long long list of old threads - but I found no position
where to start a new one.
Maybe someone can help me.
Sorry that I have to say this. My feeling is, that "https://freedos.org/forums/" - Ask a question - For developers - subscribe only leads to this jungle.
PS: I have the feeling that I will have to repeat the issues that I have reported at GitLab at the mailing list as soon as I am able to create
new threads here. This will be a longer list.
Willi
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2024 at 1:42 AM
From: "Jim Hall via Freedos-devel" <freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
To: "Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers." <freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Cc: "Jim Hall" <jh...@freedos.org>
Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Terminal
From: "Jim Hall via Freedos-devel" <freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
To: "Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers." <freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Cc: "Jim Hall" <jh...@freedos.org>
Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Terminal
Good "netiquette" is to only discuss one topic per email thread, so I
started a new thread for Terminal:
On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 4:12 PM Eric Auer via Freedos-devel
<freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> Willi has asked Jerome and me whether RUNTIME and TERMINAL
> in the auersoft.eu versions were real updates or just tests.
>
> Jerome asked him to ask on the LIST, so I answer HERE ;-)
[..]
Yes, and please avoid sending off-list emails. We have the email list
so we can talk about things in the open.
> *Terminal*
>
> Regarding TERMINAL, the distro contains version 3.2a 2015-05-16.
> The files in the ZIP have timestamps between 2001 and 2005 for
> source code and 2021-2022 for translations.
> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/repositories/unstable/pkg-html/terminal.html
>
> The version mentioned by Willi, terminal-2007jun20, contains
> 2007 changes to terminal.asm, term-irq.asm and term-data.asm,
> with the following minimalist changelog:
>
> "update in V3.3 6/2007: added a forgotten in al,dx term-irq.asm:217"
>
> The change in terminal.asm are just adding the above as a comment.
> The change in term-irq.asm is just adding that "in al,dx".
> The change in term-data.asm is just changing version and date in
> the msg_hello string. Note that the sources have LONG FILE NAMES
> which somehow got lost in the download available on Ibiblio!
>
> The version on ibiblio comes with more metadata in APPINFO: The
> LSM file and small TERMINAL.xyz files in different languages xyz,
> for example the French APPINFO/TERMINAL.FR file says:
>
> Begin3
> Language: FR, 850
> Title: terminal
> Description: Un petit terminal vt100/ansi pour tous les PC
> Keywords: terminal, rs-232, vt100
> End
>
> I guess it would be nice if the ibiblio version got updated with
> my 2007 version, but preserving the nice added ibiblio metadata.
> Please take care to preserve source LFN and timestamps, though.
I see the 2007 Terminal in the Ibiblio archive, so it looks like we
made a copy at some point. It is here:
https://ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/user/terminal/
The 2007 version has these file dates/times:
$ ls -l
total 224
-rw-r----- 1 freedos users 6014 Nov 16 2001 README
-rw-r--r-- 1 freedos users 46662 Nov 18 2001 terminal-2001nov18.zip
-rw-r--r-- 1 freedos users 48049 Nov 6 2002 terminal-2002nov06.zip
-rw-r--r-- 1 freedos users 44538 Apr 23 2005 terminal-2005apr23.zip
-rw-r--r-- 1 freedos users 44520 Jun 20 2007 terminal-2007jun20.zip
-rw-r--r-- 1 freedos users 13608 Apr 23 2005 terminal-rom.tar.gz
And:
$ unzip -l terminal-2007jun20.zip
Archive: terminal-2007jun20.zip
Length Date Time Name
--------- ---------- ----- ----
0 06-20-2007 11:17 terminal/
4175 10-20-2001 01:37 terminal/term-comm.asm
6613 06-20-2007 11:17 terminal/term-data.asm
1823 10-18-2001 14:55 terminal/term-def.asm
635 10-19-2001 17:39 terminal/eecho.asm
6333 04-23-2005 14:16 terminal/term-tty.asm
3867 06-20-2007 11:17 terminal/terminal.com
123 10-19-2001 17:40 terminal/eecho.com
11944 06-20-2007 11:17 terminal/terminal.asm
197 11-16-2001 13:05 terminal/prn-term.inf
7962 06-20-2007 11:16 terminal/term-irq.asm
2516 11-16-2001 11:27 terminal/term-menu.asm
17061 10-20-2001 15:15 terminal/term-ansi.asm
8359 10-19-2001 15:32 terminal/term-disp.asm
3175 04-23-2005 14:14 terminal/term-set.asm
6014 11-16-2001 13:04 terminal/terminal.txt
18349 03-01-2002 08:29 terminal/copying.txt
3975 11-06-2002 14:04 terminal/term.bat
--------- -------
103121 18 files
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started a new thread for Terminal:
On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 4:12 PM Eric Auer via Freedos-devel
<freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> Willi has asked Jerome and me whether RUNTIME and TERMINAL
> in the auersoft.eu versions were real updates or just tests.
>
> Jerome asked him to ask on the LIST, so I answer HERE ;-)
[..]
Yes, and please avoid sending off-list emails. We have the email list
so we can talk about things in the open.
> *Terminal*
>
> Regarding TERMINAL, the distro contains version 3.2a 2015-05-16.
> The files in the ZIP have timestamps between 2001 and 2005 for
> source code and 2021-2022 for translations.
> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/repositories/unstable/pkg-html/terminal.html
>
> The version mentioned by Willi, terminal-2007jun20, contains
> 2007 changes to terminal.asm, term-irq.asm and term-data.asm,
> with the following minimalist changelog:
>
> "update in V3.3 6/2007: added a forgotten in al,dx term-irq.asm:217"
>
> The change in terminal.asm are just adding the above as a comment.
> The change in term-irq.asm is just adding that "in al,dx".
> The change in term-data.asm is just changing version and date in
> the msg_hello string. Note that the sources have LONG FILE NAMES
> which somehow got lost in the download available on Ibiblio!
>
> The version on ibiblio comes with more metadata in APPINFO: The
> LSM file and small TERMINAL.xyz files in different languages xyz,
> for example the French APPINFO/TERMINAL.FR file says:
>
> Begin3
> Language: FR, 850
> Title: terminal
> Description: Un petit terminal vt100/ansi pour tous les PC
> Keywords: terminal, rs-232, vt100
> End
>
> I guess it would be nice if the ibiblio version got updated with
> my 2007 version, but preserving the nice added ibiblio metadata.
> Please take care to preserve source LFN and timestamps, though.
I see the 2007 Terminal in the Ibiblio archive, so it looks like we
made a copy at some point. It is here:
https://ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/user/terminal/
The 2007 version has these file dates/times:
$ ls -l
total 224
-rw-r----- 1 freedos users 6014 Nov 16 2001 README
-rw-r--r-- 1 freedos users 46662 Nov 18 2001 terminal-2001nov18.zip
-rw-r--r-- 1 freedos users 48049 Nov 6 2002 terminal-2002nov06.zip
-rw-r--r-- 1 freedos users 44538 Apr 23 2005 terminal-2005apr23.zip
-rw-r--r-- 1 freedos users 44520 Jun 20 2007 terminal-2007jun20.zip
-rw-r--r-- 1 freedos users 13608 Apr 23 2005 terminal-rom.tar.gz
And:
$ unzip -l terminal-2007jun20.zip
Archive: terminal-2007jun20.zip
Length Date Time Name
--------- ---------- ----- ----
0 06-20-2007 11:17 terminal/
4175 10-20-2001 01:37 terminal/term-comm.asm
6613 06-20-2007 11:17 terminal/term-data.asm
1823 10-18-2001 14:55 terminal/term-def.asm
635 10-19-2001 17:39 terminal/eecho.asm
6333 04-23-2005 14:16 terminal/term-tty.asm
3867 06-20-2007 11:17 terminal/terminal.com
123 10-19-2001 17:40 terminal/eecho.com
11944 06-20-2007 11:17 terminal/terminal.asm
197 11-16-2001 13:05 terminal/prn-term.inf
7962 06-20-2007 11:16 terminal/term-irq.asm
2516 11-16-2001 11:27 terminal/term-menu.asm
17061 10-20-2001 15:15 terminal/term-ansi.asm
8359 10-19-2001 15:32 terminal/term-disp.asm
3175 04-23-2005 14:14 terminal/term-set.asm
6014 11-16-2001 13:04 terminal/terminal.txt
18349 03-01-2002 08:29 terminal/copying.txt
3975 11-06-2002 14:04 terminal/term.bat
--------- -------
103121 18 files
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