Apparently I purged XP disks long ago.  :( Laptop has Windows 10 is on it.
And it is awful LOL.   Even though most of the minimalist linux live I have
tested also dogged a bit.
I might install suse with xcfe on it.  That seemed to run the best.  Though
I have never done any linux development.  and the last time I really used
it, ZipSlack and Mandrake were still a thing. :)

But I really wanted to putz the win 3.11 and DESQview/X 2.1 compatibility.
This guy mentioned...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfpizh02C2U&ab_channel=MartinISDN
So I would really like to try them all native. And is coding on a VM or
DosBox etc really coding  it  native? I dunno. :)  Half the fun I guess is
re-learning all this stuff.

I also saw a video where someone loaded 3.11 on Freedos.

:)   I dunno.  Been programming for 30 years, hate my job and have 13 years
to go.   Have to find something to respark my interest in programming in
spite of where I work.  LOL

I bought a supposed legal copy of XP from ebay.  Might do the same with MS
DOs 6.22 and Windows 3.1 but that would mean I have to get a usb floppy
drive as I no longer have one. :P

I did find a copy of "Undocumented Dos: A Programmer's Guide"
https://biblio.co.nz/9780201632873 and a bunch of my old C\C++ books.

So as soon as I get the items loaded this higher memory and 32 dos extender
stuff remembered and djgpp or w/e up and running the better.


Adam



On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 12:39 PM John Vella <john.ve...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I would be tempted to install windows xp, which I believe this laptop
> shipped with, then install virtual pc, (the version before Microsoft bought
> it) and run the various dos/Windows 3.1 machines in a virtual environment.
>
> Or install linux and find a virtual pc solution for that.
>
> Dos and win 3.1 don't need a lot of resources and should run fine
> virtually.
>
> On Wed, 1 Mar 2023, 17:57 usul, <usul.the.mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> So I was digging through my old "stuff" and found some of my old cds and
>> my Dell Latitude D520 laptop. And I got all nostalgic . I got my start with
>> a 486 DX 8 mgs of Ram.
>> I mostly did Visual Basic 3.0 programming to start after I
>> finished college. VBA/ MS Access then to Dot Net.  I can read C / C++ but
>> never really did anything with it.
>> So I thought it would be cool to mess around with it again
>>
>> So I plan to multiboot on the laptop
>> Linux
>> Dos 6.22 / Windows 3.11
>> and FreeDos
>> Is there an 'Order that this would need to be done in? Any
>> Recommendations?
>>
>> I found on those old cds copies of
>> desQview/X 2.1 and XAppeal (and if they could port it I might be able to)
>> and DragonLinux which runs on UMSDOS so install on the same partition.
>> Borland C++ 3.0, so much other fun stuff.
>>
>> Anyway I am having some problems, and I really don't remember my
>> autoexec.bat/config.sys stuff anymore but I remember getting all the dos
>> and stuff loaded to high memory or something like that.
>> This is my fconfig.sys that I found in one of the FREEDOS folders..,.
>>
>> ******************************************************************************************
>> SET DOSDIR=C:\FREEDOS
>> !BUFFERS=20
>> !FILES=40
>> !MENUCOLOR=7,0
>>
>> MENUDEFAULT=4,5
>> MENU 1 - Load FreeDOS with JEMMEX, no EMS (most UMBs), max RAM free
>> MENU 2 - Load FreeDOS with JEMMEX (more compatible)
>> MENU 3 - Load FreeDOS with JEMM386 (Expanded Memory)
>> MENU 4 - Load FreeDOS low with some drivers (Safe Mode)
>> MENU 5 - Load FreeDOS without drivers (Emergency Mode)
>>
>> 123?DOS=HIGH
>> 123?DOS=UMB
>> 123?DOSDATA=UMB
>>
>> 1?DEVICE=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\JEMMEX.EXE NOEMS X=TEST I=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG
>> 2?DEVICE=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\JEMMEX.EXE NOEMS X=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG
>> 34?DEVICE=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\HIMEMX.EXE
>> 3?DEVICE=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\JEMM386.EXE X=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG
>>
>> 12?SHELLHIGH=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM C:\FREEDOS\BIN /E:1024
>> /P=C:\FDAUTO.BAT
>> 345?SHELL=C:\FREEDOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM C:\FREEDOS\BIN /E:1024
>> /P=C:\FDAUTO.BAT
>>
>>
>> ******************************************************************************************
>>
>> The only options that seem to work are 4 & 5. .  Where can I get all the
>> info to relearn all of that?  Is there a website / documentation or an old
>> dos book I can buy that would still be relevant to FreeDos.  It sees all of
>> the memory on the laptop 4gigs just
>>
>> I have not tried anything that needs 32 bit protected mode. but
>> eventually once I get it figured out I will need it to do stuff in djgpp.
>> So I think I need to get this all working.  Mouse , CDROM all worked out of
>> the box that was amazing.
>>
>> I'm not really good with mailing lists, too  much overload. LOL Do we
>> have a Discord server or something along those lines? Web based forum etc.
>> If not, I'll re-adapt.
>>
>> Any direction  / sites / books :)
>>
>> Thanks a bunch and this is awesome btw.
>>
>> Adam
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