Hi Tapsya,
If you want to supply a registration to bbregister, then use --init-reg 
(and don't use --init-fsl). The xopts should give you the same result as 
the first command.
doug

tap...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
> Hi Doug,
>
> As mentioned below (by Dr. Tommi), bbregister with the flag --t1 does
> provide better results. i.e.
>
>   
>>> bbregister --init-fsl --s avml07 --bold --mov bold/template.nii.gz --reg
>>>       
> bold/register.dof6.dat --init-reg-out bold/init.register.dof6.dat --t1
>
>
> However, supplying register.dat (from old manual) to the bbregister
> command did not work for me,
>
>   
>>> bbregister --init-fsl --s avml07 --bold --mov bold/template.nii.gz --reg
>>>       
> bold/register.dof6.dat --init-reg-out bold/register.dat --t1
>
> Here the registration was completely off. Is there any reason why
> providing old register.dat did not work?
>
> I also tried the program register-sess. i.e.
>
>   
>>> register-sess -s avml07_cpy -d
>>>       
> /space/adapt/1/users/tapsya/project_AVISI_avml07/ -per-session -bbr-xopts
> xopts -regfile registration.dof6.dat -fsd bold
>
>  where xopts is a text file whose contents are --t1. Here the results were
> pretty much similar to the first bbregister command above. Am I supposed
> to see any difference between register-sess and bbregister (first
> bbregister command above)?
>
> Please do let me know if I am doing wrong somewhere.
>
> Thanks for helping in advance.
>
> Wishes,
> Tapsya
>
>
>   
>> That should work, but it should not register anyway (unless the raw data
>>     
> or template change).
>   
>> doug
>>
>> r...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
>>     
>>> Hi Doug,
>>> You are absolutely right - I should have noticed the T1 warning in the
>>>       
> bbregister logs. I guess funny things can happen when scanning with a
> short (1.15 sec) TR without fat suppression (also this was Trio before the
>   
>>> Tim upgrade and multichannel arrays).
>>> We tried bbregister with t1 weighting and indeed it works much better.
>>>       
> However, to change only parameter at a time, we would prefer to run the
> version 5.1 analysis using the old manual register.dat. The next
> question
>   
>>> is how do we do that exactly. As you suggest, we will (inside the bold
>>>       
> directory, not inside the individual run directories)
>   
>>> cp register.dat register.dof6.dat
>>> ... but then how should our preproc-sess command look like in order to
>>>       
> avoid re-registering the data and overwriting our registration file? Would
>   
>>> this simply be a matter of adding -noreg, such as:
>>> preproc-sess -s avml07 -fwhm 5 -surface fsaverage lhrh -per-session
>>>       
> -sliceorder siemens -force -fsd bold -noreg
>   
>>> -Tommi
>>>       
>>>> wow, that's interesting. Your data is actually T1 weighted! There are
>>>>         
> a
>   
>>>> couple of things you can do. First, you can copy your register.dat
>>>>         
> over
>   
>>>> the register.dof6.dat. An alternative is to run register-sess
>>>> (bbregister) with t1 weighting. You can do this by creating a file
>>>>         
> with
>   
>>>> the line "--t1" in it (no quotes) and passing that file to
>>>> register-sess
>>>> with "-bbr-xopts yourfile".
>>>> doug
>>>> r...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> Hi Doug,
>>>>> We have an old EPI data set where automatic (preproc-sess) or
>>>>>           
> bbregister
>   
>>>>> with any init type give a bad result. Hence, we are attempting to use
>>>>>           
> a
>   
>>>>> manual register.dat file instead. However, we must be doing something
>>>>>           
> wrong, because changing preproc-sess to use our manual register.dat (done
>   
>>>>> a couple of years ago) seems to have no effect. I suspect our
>>>>>           
> preproc-sess
>   
>>>>> options as not set up correctly. Our goal is to present the results
>>>>>           
> on
>   
>>>>> fsaverage surface.
>>>>> Our preproc-sess command line is as follows:
>>>>> preproc-sess -s avml07 -fwhm 5 -surface fsaverage lhrh -per-session
>>>>>           
> -sliceorder siemens -force -fsd bold -noreg -regfile
> bold/register.dat
>   
>>>>> The whole analysis script is at
>>>>> /space/adapt/1/users/tapsya/project_AVISI_avml07/avml07/Analysis_avml07_fsaverage.csh
>>>>>           
> FS version = 5.1
>   
>>>>> machine = adapt (analysis running on cluster)
>>>>> setenv SUBJECTS_DIR /space/adapt/1/users/tapsya/subject_MRIs/
>>>>>           
> individual subject = avml07
>   
>>>>> surface analysis lhrh, results to be presented on fsaverage surface
>>>>>           
> Total of 3 runs per analysis (each with different number of TRs)
> Total of categories in mkanalysis-sess = 18 (9 main plus 9 rare
> target)
>   
>>>>> FIR analysis
>>>>> Thank you for the advice in advance!
>>>>> Bests,
>>>>> Tommi
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Tommi Raij, MD, PhD
>>>>> MGH/MIT/HMS Athinoula A. Martinos Center for Biomedical Imaging Bldg
>>>>>           
> 149, 13th St
>   
>>>>> Charlestown, MA 02129
>>>>> U.S.A.
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>>>> MGH-NMR Center
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>>>>         
>> --
>> Douglas N. Greve, Ph.D.
>> MGH-NMR Center
>> gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>> Phone Number: 617-724-2358
>> Fax: 617-726-7422
>>
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>>
>>
>>
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>
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>
>   

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