On 04/07/2013 06:48 AM, Rotem Saar wrote:
> Hi Doug,
>
> Thanks for your answer.
> I changed the last step as u suggested, but I think I need to clarify 
> my question:
> Indeed values of the CC looks OK, but don't u think other values, like 
> the ventricles are too high ?
yes, the ventricles look too high
>
> When I first run the script, I got all values and looked the the CC - 
> it looked fine. Then, I wanted to validate with some other regions, 
> just to show that I got the appropriate (low) FA values for regions I 
> don't expect to see high values in - and things looked odd (too high).
>
> I remember Bruce also writing me that the values seems a little high, 
> but we didn't further discuss. I read the following this link: 
> http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/MultiModalDtiIndividual
>
> "The CC has an average FA of about 0.75, gyral parcellations are about 
> 0.4, the left putamen is 0.27, and the ventricle is 0.2. This is as 
> expected because the CC is highly directional with no crossing fibers 
> so we would expect the CC to have the highest FA. The gyral white 
> matter is also directional but has fibers crossing in them, so one 
> expects the FA to be lower than CC. The gray matter (putamen) is still 
> lower. The ventricle has no fibers, so we expect it to have the lowest 
> FA".
>
> All my values are above 0.4....
>
> Additionally, if in the last step I'm writing   --seg 
> /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/Rotem_try/mri/wmparc.mgz
>
> why do I get 182 regions ? in my wmparc.stats I have only 70...
The wmparc includes all the subcortical and cortical regions too, but 
only the WM regions are reported in the wmparc.stats file. To only 
report the WM regions, add to mri_segstats --ctab 
$FREESURFER_HOME/WMParcStatsLUT.txt
>
> I'm probably doing something wrong, but I can't really point to the 
> problem, thus asking for your help.
I don't know either. If I had to guess, I'd say it is a registration 
problem. What is the first value in register.dat.mincost?
doug
>
> Attached is the table again,
>
> Thanks
> Rotem
>
>
>     The values look about right in the table. Your pipeline looks ok,
>     thought the last step uses fa_FOLDER-NAME.mask.nii instead of the
>     output
>     of mri_vol2vol (fa_FOLDER-NAME.nii).
>     doug
>
>
>
>     On 03/17/2013 02:16 AM, Rotem Saar wrote:
>     >
>     >     Hi all,
>     >     I run into somthing that seems odd to me and wanted to consult -
>     >     I run the following script for getting the FA values from my DTI
>     >     scans:
>     >
>     >     1) dt_recon --i
>     > /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FOLDER-NAME/DTI/I00001.dcm --s
>     >     FOLDER-NAME --o
>     /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FOLDER-NAME/DTI --b
>     > /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FOLDER-NAME/DTI/bvals.bval
>     > /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FOLDER-NAME/DTI/bvecs.bvec
>     >     2) tkregister2 --s fsaverage --surf white --reg
>     > /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FOLDER-NAME/DTI/fa-tal.nii.reg
>     >     --mov /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FOLDER-NAME/DTI/fa-tal.nii
>     >     3) tkmedit FOLDER-NAME orig.mgz -aux brain.mgz -seg wmparc.mgz
>     >     -reg /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FOLDER-NAME/DTI/register.dat
>     >     -overlay /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FOLDER-NAME/DTI/fa.nii
>     >     -fthresh 0.2 -fmax 1
>     >     4) mri_vol2vol --mov
>     > /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FOLDER-NAME/DTI/fa.nii --targ
>     > /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FOLDER-NAME/mri/orig.mgz --s
>     >     FOLDER-NAME --interp nearest --o
>     > /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FOLDER-NAME/DTI/fa_FOLDER-NAME.nii
>     >     --reg
>     /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FOLDER-NAME/DTI/register.dat
>     >     5) tkregister2 --mov
>     > /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FOLDER-NAME/DTI/fa_FOLDER-NAME.nii
>     >     --targ /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FOLDER-NAME/mri/orig.mgz
>     >     --reg
>     >
>     /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FOLDER-NAME/DTI/fa_FOLDER-NAME.nii.reg
>     >     6) mri_segstats --seg
>     > /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FOLDER-NAME/mri/wmparc.mgz --ctab
>     >     $FREESURFER_HOME/FreeSurferColorLUT.txt --i
>     >
>     /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FOLDER-NAME/DTI/fa_FOLDER-NAME.mask.nii
>     >     --sum
>     >
>     /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FOLDER-NAME/stats/all_stats_fa_FOLDER-NAME
>     >
>     >
>     >     I got a table with all the FA values (see attached), for each
>     >     segment, but I suspect a problem: I think that the values
>     are too
>     >     high (I set the threshold to 0.2-1), am I right ?
>     >     Can u guide me regarding what I can do to solve the problem ? in
>     >     addition I attached a figure of the corpus-callosum, in
>     which I'm
>     >     interested - i't seems that the green area in not big enough, is
>     >     this fixable ?
>     >
>     >     Thanks !
>     >
>     >     Rotem
>
>
>
>
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