Dear Douglas,

Yes I would like to in order to compute mean of some means. Maybe not if it
is equivalent to number of vertices (are vertices distributed equaly
distant on the cortical surface ?)

In case I need surface area, do I have to convert overlay to annotation
file to be used with mri_segstats ?

Best regards,
Matthieu

Le 11 nov. 2016 9:21 PM, "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> a
écrit :

> NVox is the number of vertices. The Volume_mm3 is not meaningful. Do you
> want area?
>
>
> On 11/11/2016 04:53 AM, Matthieu Vanhoutte wrote:
> > Dear Douglas,
> >
> > I come back to you concerning stats made from binary .mgh surface data
> > file:
> >
> > mri_segstats --i lh.fsaverage.sm10.mgh --seg lh.sign_clust.bin.mgh
> > --excludeid 0 --sum lh.bin.sum --avgwf lh.wav.bin.txt
> >
> > In the output file « lh.bin.sum » all is considered as volume
> > input/output as you could see below:
> >
> > /# InVolFileTimeStamp  2016/04/28 09:46:19 /
> > /# InVolFrame 0 /
> > /# ExcludeSegId 0 /
> > /# Only reporting non-empty segmentations/
> > /# VoxelVolume_mm3 1 /
> > /# TableCol  1 ColHeader Index /
> > /# TableCol  1 FieldName Index /
> > /# TableCol  1 Units     NA /
> > /# TableCol  2 ColHeader SegId /
> > /# TableCol  2 FieldName Segmentation Id/
> > /# TableCol  2 Units     NA/
> > /# TableCol  3 ColHeader NVoxels /
> > /# TableCol  3 FieldName Number of Voxels/
> > /# TableCol  3 Units     unitless/
> > /# TableCol  4 ColHeader Volume_mm3/
> > /# TableCol  4 FieldName Volume/
> > /# TableCol  4 Units     mm^3/
> > /# TableCol  5 ColHeader Mean /
> > /# TableCol  5 FieldName Intensity Mean/
> > /# TableCol  5 Units     unknown/
> > /# TableCol  6 ColHeader StdDev/
> > /# TableCol  6 FieldName Itensity StdDev/
> > /# TableCol  6 Units     unknown/
> > /# TableCol  7 ColHeader Min/
> > /# TableCol  7 FieldName Intensity Min/
> > /# TableCol  7 Units     unknown/
> > /# TableCol  8 ColHeader Max/
> > /# TableCol  8 FieldName Intensity Max/
> > /# TableCol  8 Units     unknown/
> > /# TableCol  9 ColHeader Range/
> > /# TableCol  9 FieldName Intensity Range/
> > /# TableCol  9 Units     unknown/
> > /# NRows 1 /
> > /# NTableCols 9 /
> > /# ColHeaders  Index SegId NVoxels Volume_mm3 StructName Mean StdDev
> > Min Max Range /
> > /  1   1     11510    11510.0  Seg0001     7.6819     1.4396
> > 4.4862    10.9042     6.4180 /
> >
> > As my inputs are all surface data could I consider that NVoxels is
> > equal to NVertices and Volume_mm3 is equal to SurfaceArea_mm2 ?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Matthieu
> >
> >> Le 10 nov. 2016 à 23:18, Matthieu Vanhoutte
> >> <matthieuvanhou...@gmail.com <mailto:matthieuvanhou...@gmail.com>> a
> >> écrit :
> >>
> >> Thank you Douglas !
> >>
> >>
> >> Le 10 nov. 2016 7:21 PM, "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
> >> <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> a écrit :
> >>
> >>     You need to weight by the number of vertices
> >>
> >>     n = [27805 2321 552];
> >>       m = [8.8194 10.3661 10.3365];
> >>     sum(n.*m)/sum(n)
> >>
> >>     ans =
> >>
> >>          8.9637
> >>
> >>
> >>     On 11/10/2016 06:44 AM, Matthieu Vanhoutte wrote:
> >>     > Dear Freesurfer's experts,
> >>     >
> >>     > Could anyone please explain me the difference I got with
> >>     command line
> >>     > in below mail ?
> >>     >
> >>     > Best regards,
> >>     > Matthieu
> >>     >
> >>     > 2016-08-12 12:07 GMT+02:00 Matthieu Vanhoutte
> >>     > <matthieuvanhou...@gmail.com
> >>     <mailto:matthieuvanhou...@gmail.com>
> >>     <mailto:matthieuvanhou...@gmail.com
> >>     <mailto:matthieuvanhou...@gmail.com>>>:
> >>     >
> >>     >     Dear experts,
> >>     >
> >>     >     I am in trouble with two ways of computing mean intensity with
> >>     >     mri_segstats.
> >>     >
> >>     >     First I have used on .annot files with three different labels
> >>     >     inside (SegId 1 to 3) :
> >>     >
> >>     >     /mri_segstats --annot fsaverage lh
> cache.th23.pos.sig.ocn.annot
> >>     >     --i lh.PET.fsaverage.sm10.mgh --sum lh.pet.sum/
> >>     >     /
> >>     >     /
> >>     >     which give me those results:
> >>     >     # ColHeaders  Index SegId NVertices Area_mm2 StructName Mean
> >>     >     StdDev Min Max Range
> >>     >     1   1     27805    14182.6  cluster-001 8.8194     1.4351
> >>     >     6.2105    14.2947     8.0842
> >>     >     2   2      2321     1047.3  cluster-002  10.3661     1.0848
> >>     >     8.8375    12.9317     4.0942
> >>     >     3   3       552      313.1  cluster3 10.3365     0.4711
> >>     >     9.3719    11.8694     2.4975
> >>     >
> >>     >     Second I have created on .label files containing the three
> >>     >     segmented labels (SegId 1 to 3) and used this label with
> >>     mri_segstats:
> >>     >
> >>     >     /mri_segstats --slabel fsaverage lh
> >>     >     lh.th23.cluster.thresh1.3.label --i lh.PET.fsaverage.sm10.mgh
> >>     >     --excludeid 0 --sum lh.pet.label.sum /
> >>     >     /
> >>     >     /
> >>     >     which give me those results:/
> >>     >     /
> >>     >     /# ColHeaders  Index SegId NVertices Area_mm2 StructName Mean
> >>     >     StdDev Min Max Range /
> >>     >     /  1   1     30678  15542.9  Seg0001 8.9637    1.4701 6.2105
> >>     >      14.2947 8.0842 /
> >>     >     /
> >>     >     /
> >>     >     I verified if I obtained the same results with the two ways
> >>     >     (.annot or .label) and everything is fine comparing NVertices,
> >>     >     Area_mm2 but Mean in first way gives me
> >>     (8.8194+10.3661+10.3365)/3
> >>     >     = 9.84066 and with .label file Mean = 8.9637.
> >>     >
> >>     >     Did I have miss anything and how is computed mean intensity ?
> >>     >
> >>     >     Many thanks in advance.
> >>     >
> >>     >     Best regards,
> >>     >     Matthieu
> >>     >
> >>     >
> >>     >
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