I'm not sure what you mean to apply the tal without a registration. Do 
you mean without resampling? We don't have anything that will do that 
for a 12dof registration.


On 05/04/2018 05:11 PM, Boggess, Matthew Jozsef wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>
> I just wanted to follow up on this again. Is there any way to 
> transform functional data (already in T1 space) to tal space directly? 
> Something like passing an identity registration matrix to mri_vol2vol 
> or another command that would apply the tal transform without a 
> registration?
>
>
> If not, I will just try re-registering as you suggested, but I am 
> hoping to minimize the extra processing steps.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matt
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
> <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Boggess, Matthew 
> Jozsef <mbogg...@mgh.harvard.edu>
> *Sent:* Friday, April 20, 2018 8:13:11 AM
> *To:* freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Freesurfer] fmriprep to fsfast interface
>
> Thank you for the response!
>
>
> I'm interested primarily in tal space, but potentially native as well. 
> For tal space, is there no easy way to just directly transform the 
> data into tal space or provide an identity matrix for the registration?
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
> <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Douglas Greve 
> <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 17, 2018 12:01:46 PM
> *To:* freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Freesurfer] fmriprep to fsfast interface
>
> sorry for the delay, see below
>
>
> On 4/14/18 10:00 AM, Boggess, Matthew Jozsef wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>> I just wanted to follow up to see if anyone could help with any of my 
>> questions, particularly # 1.
>>
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Matt Boggess
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
>> <mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> 
>> <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> 
>> <mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Boggess, 
>> Matthew Jozsef <mbogg...@mgh.harvard.edu> 
>> <mailto:mbogg...@mgh.harvard.edu>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 5, 2018 8:02:07 AM
>> *To:* freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
>> <mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>> *Subject:* [Freesurfer] fmriprep to fsfast interface
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've been working on taking the outputs of the fmriprep 
>> BOLD preprocessing tool 
>> (https://fmriprep.readthedocs.io/en/latest/index.html) and coercing 
>> them into the fsfast structure so that first levels can be run with 
>> mkanalysis-sess and selxavg3b-sess. It's been a bit trickier than 
>> anticipated and I was hoping to get some help verifying my current 
>> approach (attached to this email).
>>
>> Question 1:
>>
>> fmriprep outputs the preprocessed BOLD data in the T1 space (mni305 
>> is not an option). However, the typical spatial normalization 
>> workflow uses a registration matrix from the bold to T1 to transform 
>> to talairach. Is there a way to do this transformation without having 
>> to specify a registration matrix given the functional data is already 
>> in the T1 space? My current approach is to use mri_convert with the 
>> --apply_transform flag pointing to the talairach.xfm registration 
>> matrix in the subject's recon folder, but I am not sure if this is a 
>> reasonable workaround.
> Do you want to analyze it in the native T1 space or in talairach 
> space? If native, then when you run mkanalysis-sess you can bypass the 
> preprocessing by directly specifying the stem of the functional data 
> you want to process (-funcstem). If tal space, then I think it should 
> work out of the box (it would recalc the registration, but that 
> should  be ok).
>>
>> Question 2:
>>
>> fsfast normally calculates the global mean value of the raw data to 
>> be used for intensity normalization. However, with fmriprep I only 
>> have access to the preprocessed data in T1 space. Would extracting 
>> the global mean value for intensity normalization from the 
>> preprocessed BOLD in T1 space be valid?
> Yes
>>
>> Question 3:
>>
>> Is there a way to do first levels in the native subcortical space? If 
>> so, what is the filename structure expected (maybe mni305.2mm gets 
>> replaced with the subject name as with the surface data)? I've only 
>> seen examples transforming to mni305 space, but ideally an option 
>> would be to just transfer the preprocessed BOLD in T1 space and run 
>> first levels staying in the native T1 space.
> See above.
>>
>> Thanks for your help!
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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