Well... one current alternative (and talk about latency...) is to record high 
quality speech audio in whatever format you want (hopefully, using an open 
source codec) and send it as a file.  I have done this over HF using WinDRM. 
Now, you can have all the "quality you want"... you just have to wait for it. 
It is not very practical but neither is wide BW DV on HF unless you use (if you 
could use..) some type of spread specturm. 

Mel

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bruce Perens 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 10:11 AM
  Subject: Re: [Freetel-codec2] speech bandwidth


  Have you tried digital radio mondial? It might be more appropriate for hi-fi.


  Albert Cahalan <[email protected]> wrote:
For me, the hope has been that digital voice would allow crammingsuperior (to 
humans) audio into the same radio spectrum. I'm reallydisappointed to see the 
same old just-under-4-kHz limit being used.SSB incompatibility is kind of 
pointless if it isn't an improvement.There are numerous reasons to want wider 
speech bandwidth:Cochlear implant users need it. They struggle with 
telephones.People listening in a non-native language need it. When thelanguage 
is not natural for you, being unable to hear the differencebetween F and S (an 
English example) becomes a huge problem.You need to hear every word correctly 
because you can't mentallyfill in the blanks.Distorted audio is tiring. It's 
just plain unpleasant.Distinguishing speakers would be rather nice. Consider 
people whoare closely related,
of similar age, and/or high-pitched females.Polycom has some nice graphs 
regarding 
intelligibility:http://www.polycom.com/global/documents/whitepapers/effect_of_bandwidth_on_speech_intelligibility_2.pdfPeople
 are even widening up analog in the ham bands now.(for example, 6 kHz wide) 
Google for any of:hi-fi ssbhifi ssbessbBeing analog, this of course does take 
more spectrum.Remember also that one of the reasons for people to use Skypehas 
been the audio quality, The old versions sampled at 11.025 kHzonly. Despite 
lossy compression, this is better than 8 kHz POTS.With better audio, operating 
style can even change. There is noneed for a phonetic alphabet if you can 
understand letters just 
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