Hi all,

I've just "hacked" the "dudestar" app to use the FreeDV API, not
the Codec2 3200 and 1600 code that came with "mvoice".

Now I can experiment with other Codec2 modes!!

Warning: First hack

Source in:
www.unixservice.com.au/freedv

Alan VK2ZIW



On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 06:08:37 +1000, Al Beard via Freetel-codec2 wrote
> Hi Sebastien,
> 
> The M17 project
> 
> It was commented on RepeaterBuilder, what does the mode 3200 offer
> in improving the low signal performance over the current 4800 
> bits/sec commercial offerings?
> 
> I thought, that's very true. If they (M17) used say the 700 Codec2
> mode, with the added callsign data Src & Dest etc. perhaps the packet
> size could be well down, perhaps 1000 bits/sec. Surely this would
> improve the low signal performance.
> 
> AI modes (LPCnet)
> 
> Are they needed at this point or is this experimentation, awaiting
> newer hardware? Note: Apple (Inc) are looking at adding the SIMD
> extended instructions into the ARM architecture for their "pad"
> and cell-phone range and, note AND, replacing the CPU to ARM in their
> desktop systems!
> 
> ========== Right now ==========
> 
> I'd like to see:
> 
> 1) Adapt "dudestar" and "droidstar" to use the current FreeDV API.
>     (minus the AI modes)
> 
> 2) Adapt the above two apps to use other FreeDV modes, perhaps even 450.
> 
> Does this make cents?
> 
> Alan VK2ZIW
> 
> On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 15:59:20 +0100, Sebastien F4GRX wrote
> > hello
> > 
> > m17 looks like an embedded project that will not be able to use the 
> > last AI powered but resource hungry modes, because they only use a 
> > STM32 in their handheld.
> > 
> > Moreover their goal does not look like to reduce the used bandwidth 
> > or work HF DX, but to provide clear audio that competes with 
> > proprietary solutions on VHF and UHF.
> > 
> > So is it really bad if they only use the the old but lightweight modes?
> > 
> > For me at least it makes a lot of sense.
> > 
> > Sebastien
> > 
> > Le 17/11/2020 à 02:38, Al Beard via Freetel-codec2 a écrit :
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Adapting "dudestar" to use the latest Codec2 library is proving
> > > difficult for me, a "hacker" at best.
> > >
> > > I'd really like to do this as I'd be unhappy with the M17 project
> > > being limited to only the Codec2 modes 3200 and 1600.
> > >
> > > C++ "Scope" problems.
> > >
> > > Alan VK2ZIW
> > >
> > > On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 09:52:40 +1000, Al Beard via Freetel-codec2 wrote
> > >> Hi guys,
> > >>
> > >> The "dudestar" app https://github.com/nostar/dudestar
> > >>
> > >> Makes use of the 3200 mode from 2010 to be compatible with the M17
> > >> project.
> > >>
> > >> Can the "dudestar" software in the "Voice & Data" mode be changed to
> > >> use the lower bit-rate modes such as 700 or even 450?
> > >>
> > >> To keep the internet packet format the same, in this V&D mode just
> > >> have more "space" for data.
> > >>
> > >> As it stands, in the "Type" field bits, there is provision for 
encryption.
> > >> It's been commented that "encryption" should be OUT. This frees up
> > >> the bits for more vocoder types.
> > >>
> > >> Will an app such as this and "DROIDstar" encourage "over the
> > >> internet" experimentation with alternate vocoders?
> > >>
> > >> BTW: The 3200 mode sounds quite good as long as one's mic audio level
> > >> is adjusted down below clipping. (Use the O/S volume control app)
> > >>
> > >> (and the background noise level is low) (lessons from my laptop
> > >> internal mic that "hears" the CPU fan very well)
> > >>
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