Geert-
  Oops, sorry for the typo. Good point baout teh more and more common
automounting setup of the newer Linux distros. I still use Slackware,
so had not really thought about that.

Evan

On 7/28/05, Geert Decorte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This link in the wiki is related to this discussion
> 
> http://freevo.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/doc/MovieUsage
> 
> I believe the point is due to distributions which have automount working
> by default for the CD/DVD device.
> 
> In my case I had replace it by submount. So disabling any mounting of the
> DVD/CD should work fine. At least I'm gonna try that.
> The only way were submount should be effective: you use the computer for
> multiple purposes (Desktop).
> So somewhere in the WIKI there should be a statement to drop automounting
> systems for dvd/cd in order to avoid possible issues. Or is there a way to
> disable this default behaviour in freevo? Most linux distributions will
> include (actually they do) more and more auto mounting systems.
> 
> BTW Evan: Greet is a christian name for female. My name is Geert.
> 
> 
> Geert
> 
> 
> > All I know is that if I have a disc mounted then start and stop freevo
> > it is no longer mounted.  Freevo must have some internal mounting
> > already built in because when I put in a CD or DVD it automatically
> > "mounts" it (I don't know if it is officially mounted or if it's just
> > some internal trickery) and when I press the eject button on the drive
> > itself it is unmounted and ejected automatically.
> >
> > I think the real problem that should be addressed is:
> > If this is not working for you without supermount/submount then what
> > is wrong with the freevo configuration you have as it SHOULD work like
> > you want it to WITHOUT external automounting facilities.
> >
> > 2005/7/28, Evan Hisey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> Greet-
> >>   I would say, preformance issue are the big thing. Freevo has not
> >> need to have any disc's mounted to play and the eject buttons work
> >> fine on my drives. As understand it Freevo handles that part in the
> >> background. Running a second system to do the same thing, is going ot
> >> add alot of undeeded over head with the potential of race or confilcts
> >> between the two systems. Lastly it just makes installing freevo that
> >> much harder
> >>
> >> Evan.
> >>
> >> On 7/27/05, Geert Decorte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > Evan,
> >> >
> >> > Could you be more specific?
> >> > I don't see why you find this a bad idea.
> >> >
> >> > > Greet-
> >> > >   I think using something like submount/supermount is just a bad
> >> idea
> >> > > in this case. Freevo handles VCD/CD/DVD just fine without any kind
> >> of
> >> > > mounting madness outside of freevo.
> >> >
> >> > I added submount to make my freevobox pass the housewife :) test.
> >> > Normal users will push the eject button. Like they use to do with CD
> >> > players. They expect the devices behave like this. Intuitive
> >> behaviour.
> >> > Creating a application where the user has to read a phone-book size
> >> manual
> >> > full of exceptions doesn't make much sense to me.
> >> > Mounted CD's needs to be umounted first before ejecting.
> >> >
> >> > Anyway, thnx to submount CD's get ejected using the eject button
> >> instead
> >> > of issuing the eject command from the keyboard/remote control. adding
> >> a
> >> > new CD to the tray gets automagicly detected and applied into freevo.
> >> > So far I didn't see any problem with it. Perhaps this could raise
> >> > performance issue with slower processors?
> >> > Mandriva users using freevo should already have this feature thanks to
> >> > supermount.
> >> >
> >> > Geert
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > Evan
> >> > >
> >> > > On 7/26/05, Geert Decorte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > >> I had covered this issue lately in the WIKI.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Either you install submount or supermount.
> >> > >> The mandrake distribution comes default with supermount
> >> > >>
> >> > >> http://freevo.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/doc/TipsAndTricks#head-1d05cdb982531dee65b0f3d20548b880722069ae
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Submount needs only a additional kernel module and some experiments
> >> with
> >> > >> parameters in /etc/fstab
> >> > >> Supermount needs a patched kernel
> >> > >>
> >> > >> HTH
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Geert
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:44 am, Jake Briggs wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > you dont need to mount a dvd to play it.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > eject can be used with EJECT mapped to a button on the remote, or
> >> "."
> >> > >> on
> >> > >> > your
> >> > >> > keyboard.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > I dont have supermount or anything on any of my freevo boxes.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Travis.
> >> > >> >> WiSHiE wrote:
> >> > >> >> >On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:29 am, Jake Briggs wrote:
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> >you press "eject" on your remote(or keyboard . ), take the DVD
> >> out,
> >> > >> and
> >> > >> >> > put a new one in.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> So your saying that freevo will umount the dvd, and dosent use
> >> > >> >> supermount?  Because that would be handy :)
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> >You do not need to exit freevo.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Last time I attempted to watch 2 dvds (actually, the only time I
> >> have
> >> > >> >> attempted this) the eject button (On the drive itself) wouldnt
> >> work
> >> > >> as I
> >> > >> >> expected, and I have neglected to map a button on my remote to
> >> > >> "eject".
> >> > >> >> I put the drive in about three months after I set freevo up
> >> initially
> >> > >> >> you see.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> >Wouldnt be much of a home theatre setup if you had to turn it
> >> off to
> >> > >> >> watch
> >> > >> >> >another movie now, would it ? :)
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Haha true :)
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Jake
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> >>Hi all
> >> > >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >>How does one change a dvd when running freevo? For example, I
> >> just
> >> > >> >> >>watched a movie, and I want to watch another. Do i have to
> >> exit
> >> > >> >> freevo,
> >> > >> >> >>umount the dvd, eject the dvd, then insert the new one, then
> >> run
> >> > >> >> freevo
> >> > >> >> >>again? Or can freevo do this sort of thing automatically
> >> (well,
> >> > >> apart
> >> > >> >> >>from the 'insert a new one' part :) ).
> >> > >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >>I was just going to configure the supermount stuff last night,
> >> but
> >> > >> >> then
> >> > >> >> >>I thought I had better ask, maybe freevo has some issues when
> >> using
> >> > >> >> >>supermount ?
> >> > >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >>Jake
> >> > >> >
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