Am Montag, 4. Juni 2007 22:46:47 schrieb Waldemar Brodkorb: > Hi, Hi Waldemar & developers
> I decided to rearrange my master plan for FreeWRT development. I > will focus on FreeWRT 1.1 in the next months. Brcm-2.6 support will > be removed very soon. The reason for that is very simple. > > I will not invest more time into crappy hardware from big companys, > who does not play nice with the community. There are a lot of open > hardware projects available and we should support them, if we can. That's true. But we shouldn't drop brcm-2.4 in freewrt 1.1. I know that even for 2.4 the broadcom drivers and userspace utilities are crappy and not very easy to integrate into freewrt, but for the majority of the users the broadcom wlan is already working good enough in 1.0 for their setups. The most people don't need multiple ssid's, wds, and other stuff and so it might be ok to simply not support this kind of stuff for broadcom based systems now (1.0) and in future (1.1). Even the majority of users don't need 2.6 for their asus, so I think it's ok to not bring 2.6 for asus routers in 1.1. Furthermore I think it's fine if we advise people with routers using the broadcom wlan to change the minipci wlan card to something that we can support better if they really need the more advanced features. The broadcom based asus routers are quite cheap, fast and easy to flash/recover, so I think it should be one of the major targets (even if its only with 2.4 kernels) for freewrt 1.1. Of course routerboard and maybe the most important (still buyable) netgear & linksys routers are also important. but it's ok to keep the list of supported devices small in general. > Furthermore we have a nice OpenWrt release, which everyone can use, if > somebody needs Broadcom Routers with 2.6! Waldemar, is that really you writing this? :) but of course you are right with this statement. we cannot support every combination if we want to have a stable and innovative adk & linux distro for at least some popular embedded devices, so if people have other aims or want to use other devices another embedded os is the best choice for them. Quality and not quantity is important for us, even if some users might change their router-os because of that. > I am still unsure how to handle the old not buyable hardware > from Netgear, Asus and Linksys. We are a small team, we should focus > on realistic goals. Keep the support for the devices that are already in 1.0 for (maybe still) upcoming minor 1.0 subreleases, but for me it's ok to drop some devices for 1.1. Everything else would make more problems than we can solve, at least if the amount of active developers is not getting bigger in the same amount as the supported hardware. If someone really wants to keep one of these devices in 1.1, then he should get the chance to keep one of these devices in 1.1, if he is willing and able to support this platform on his own, But core developers should be able to work on problems and new features instead of supporting old hardware that is not available anymore. > Comments please! nothing easier than that. you said that you want to work more on freewrt 1.1 in future. Maybe it's helping you when someone takes over 1.0 tasks for you. If you agree and like that idea, then I would be willing to be something like the "1.0 release maintainer/manager" or whatsoever. I think I am able to help with thinks like looking for security updates, writing release notes/announcements, preparing new 1.0 releases. But (especially for the beginning) I definitly might need some help with one or the other aspect of this. But because I haven't looked very closely into 1.1, but I am more familiar with 1.0 anyways, this might a good solution for all of us. I think the majority of developers are focusing on 1.1 already... > There is always a chance for a voting to get a new project leader. hmmm, I really stopped a moment after reading this sentence, especially after the linuxtag was really a success (in my opinion). Who would be a good alternative? I think you are doing a great job with freewrt so far and at least none of the active freewrt developers would be able to keep this work up at this high level. or do you just want a democratic authorisation for this (and maybe other upcoming) decisions in the freewrt project? if you really want an 100% open opensource project, then maybe a constitution would be a good think. maybe project leader elections like debian does... But to be honest, for the moment I think this would be overkill and maybe a really big mistake to have elections, because we are too small for really needing that and I am very happy with you as project leader. From my point of view none of your decisions in the past were wrong and you are really doing a great job which nobody else could do half as good as you already done in the past. A project leader needs social skills, commitment, technical knowledge and a vision and you have all of this. freewrt without you would not be freewrt at all. And I think we are democraticly enough. I am sure you never would do something if you exactly knew that the majority of developers and maybe even of the users would be against, so at least the the "mass" of people that are in touch with freewrt have some kind of "veto" and that is more then we have in our so called democracy country. politicans are often not even listening to the majority of their citizens. > Have fun! > Waldemar n8, Ralph _______________________________________________ freewrt-developers mailing list [email protected] https://www.freewrt.org/lists/listinfo/freewrt-developers
