Thanks Russell, for such a direct answer. I am determined to understand this guy, so I am unlikely to quit altogether , but I am about to embark on a trip to even Deeper Woods than where I am now, so will let it go for a bit.
Good luck in work. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > [Original Message] > From: Russell Standish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> > Date: 8/4/2008 4:08:30 PM > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Rosen, Life Itself > > On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 07:20:22PM -0600, Nicholas Thompson wrote: > > Phil, > > > > Everybody needs to remember that this is my synopsis of Rosen, not Rosen. > > > > Also, I am starting my synopsis on Chapter Five. I have read the previous chapters with great care and understand things abut them, but the synopsis of chapter five will never settle down until somebody has written synopses to the earlier chapters. > > > > Now substance. I am not sure the word "realize" is causal in Rosen's lingo. He just means that some tangible object or process in our worlds has the same formal structure. Am I wrong about this???/ > > No, it sounds correct to me. > > > > > Have I misjudged the group's interest in Rosen? I have imagined by now that others would be beavering away at synopses of other chapters and/or been so seduced by my incompetence that they would have taken over the synopsizing of chapter five. > > Perhaps. IIRC the main Rosen postings were from Glen Ropella and > myself. I suspect Glen has a rather dilletante approach to Rosen (I > know I shouldn't really speak for him though) and for myself it is > very much a side issue of a side issue related to my studies of > Emergence. > > Right now, I'm trying to devote what little research time I have into > to doing real ALife research. Understanding Rosen doesn't figure on > the critical path. It could be years, if ever, I get back to studying Rosen. > > There are a small number of people trying to actively study Rosen in > the ALife community. You could try one of the ALife mailing lists, > although there is no guarantee that these people are members. More > likely, you could just write to them directly and try to set up your > own community (or invite them to join FRIAM). > > > > > I dont know any other way to come to understand a difficult book. > > > > Nick > > > > Nicholas S. Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, > > Clark University ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > > > -- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > A/Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > Mathematics > UNSW SYDNEY 2052 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Australia http://www.hpcoders.com.au > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org