Owen,

You're surprised?  Given this list's demonstrated history of having N
definitions for any given buzz-term, where N == the subscribership of this
list, X 2, X the day of the week.

Further, given that EMERGENCE is the Holy Grail warm fuzzy of all buzz-terms
to have ever been uttered here.  Really.  Consider: Murrey Gell-Man.  SFI.
On the Edge of Chaos.  Flocking.  The Stock Market.  The Da Vinci Code.

Ok, that last one was a stretch.

But come on, really.  Given the number pure academics who hang out here who
have never really done anything (meaning real-world, actually running,
in-use, producing results, was paid for by a client and is actually being
used for its intended purpose-type application) that could be construed as
actually being On The Edge of Complexity, I don't really think that it is
all that surprising that such a big deal is being made about "What is the
definition of EMERGENCE?"  Imagine much smacking of lips at this point.

The above, of course, as compared to having written a paper about some
fuzzily-defined COMPLEXITY concept.

Pause.

I've determined to my own satisfaction that the CAPS LOCK key on this new
keyboard is working.  Please resume pontification.

--Doug

On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Owen Densmore <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sep 7, 2009, at 5:14 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote:
>
>> I think I'll have a Martini, while contemplating this opportunity.
>>
>> --Doug
>>
>
> Sounds good to me too! Er.. I'll drink to that?
>
> I have to say I'm a bit surprised at the difficulty with emergence.
>  Wikipedia has an OK shot at it:
>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergence
>
> I think it's simply the appearance within a time varying aggregate system
> of a feature not apparently derived from its components' interactions.
>
>   -- Owen
>
>
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