Penrose's book was an odd fish indeed. I liked the physics. I utterly
did not understand what he was talking about when he talked about AI.
Neither did anyone else, so far as I heard. I think he had a
prejudice against AI, and used this flimflammery to pretend he had
scientific reasons for being against it.
On Dec 16, 2009, at 5:43 PM, Robert J. Cordingley wrote:
More on non-algorithmic computing from Penrose:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor's_New_Mind
but I don't see how the brain can use quantum mechanics since it's
biochemical and operates on a different scale. Has anyone read
Penrose's book and can recommend it or not (even tho' it was
awarded a prize by the Royal Society)?
Robert C
Robert J. Cordingley wrote:
Didn't it take an algorithm (an Inference Engine) to process the
heuristics? Also show me some silicon that doesn't use an
algorithm somewhere. So do you suppose the Mind Machine Project
is a way to break free of this computing/algorithmic model?
Robert C
Pamela McCorduck wrote:
Most of early AI was heuristics, not algorithms. Some algorithms
were incorporated into expert systems, in the belief that if an
algorithm could solve the problem, fine; if not, heuristics
might. But it was always *might*. True, computers can't solve all
problems, neither can humans.
P.
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The ways deep and the weather sharp.
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