I'd love to know what the risk-benifit trade off is. Do we harass 10^6 people at a cost of $10^9 for one discovery of note, one which would stop an air-bomb?
As I understand it, the best info is not scanners etc but community members reporting suspicious behavior. Maybe we should ask help from the Islamic community? I realize they feel victimized, but throw the same $$ at that sort of program would likely create better results. The last "event", the package bomb, was not meant to destroy the aircraft was it? I think there were two packages sent to "enemy" land addresses. To tell the truth, I think I'm willing to risk it by tossing the scanners etc, using sensible (and PC incorrect) social methods, and hope the odds are not as bad as people think. -- Owen On Nov 21, 2010, at 1:57 PM, Russell Gonnering wrote: > Because we are unwilling to do the only sane thing and profile behavior, we > sacrifice our liberty on the altar of political correctness. So, fellow > FRIAMers, when they start doing rectal exams to find the concealed > explosives, what will our response be then? What about the surgically > implanted explosives? > > The choice is not between unpleasant experiences and being blown up. The > choice is between acting like idiots or doing what actually is necessary to > prevent terror. So far, we have chosen the former. Is it really worth it to > spend billions of dollars and terrorize the innocents to appear to be “fair” > to everyone? > > I put my money on the idiots, as they always seem to run things. El Al should > expand into the domestic US market. > > Russ #3 > Russell Gonnering, MD, MMM, FACS, CPHQ > rsgonneri...@mac.com > www.emergenthealth.net > > <PastedGraphic-3.tiff> > On Nov 21, 2010, at 2:33 PM, plissa...@comcast.net wrote: > >> I have followed the correspondence on enhanced scanning with usual mixture >> of shock and incredulity. Do people object because it’s offensive or >> because it’s ineffective? It would be unpleasant but, for me, unpleasanter >> to be blown up by a device that had avoided the enhanced scanner. But I >> haven’t enough info to make any definitive judgment. In particular on two >> matters. It seems that new bomb compounds can be concealed by flesh masses >> in exotic parts of the body without detection by the old scanners. I >> thought that the Xmas underwear bomber had proved this. It seems that old >> folk, handicapped people, children and infants are ideal subjects for >> planted bombs, with no adverse fall-out for the Bad Hats if detected. In >> this wicked world the innocent are always punished. >> If correct this is pretty awful news. >> The strategy is for a bomber to finesse that he’d be directed through the >> old system, pass and end up undetected on his planned flight. If an >> enhanced scan is required, then he should avoid this by all means while >> offering to take the old, ineffectual scan, and withdraw, undetected, >> unidentified and with his powder dry, to try again another day. >> In such circumstances he should behave like a gullible but superior person >> (e.g. a Friamer) and behave with all the histrionics necessary for the >> exasperated TSA to simply tell him to get lost. So this dramatic response, >> that some objectors seem to have chosen, and others to approve of, would >> make the objector highly suspect, and rightly so. >> >> >> Peter Lissaman, Da Vinci Ventures >> >> Expertise is not knowing everything, but knowing what to look for. >> >> 1454 Miracerros Loop South, Santa Fe, New Mexico 87505,USA >> tel:(505)983-7728 >> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
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