Douglas Roberts wrote circa 01/03/2011 08:00 PM: > Fuck 'em. There are 1,426 other mirrors, plus uncounted "stealth" > mirrors out there ready to go live if needed.
That misses the point, though. It's not about Wikileaks. It's about the (some particular, not all) corporations and the systemic culture of fear. It's about SiteGround and SoftLayer and their choosing to shut down a customer just because they can ... or because they fear the consequences of [gasp] siding with their customer. The same thing happened with AT&T et al regarding the warrant-less wire tapping thing. The customers of the big corporations have their privacy violated; then those same customers roll right over and buy a bunch of AT&T locked iPhones! That'll sure discourage AT&T's bad behavior, eh? That's the point. Paying attention to who exhibits good behavior and who exhibits bad behavior (especially when aliases abound and actors are embedded in layer upon layer of obfuscating shells) takes more effort than simply mirroring some one-off set of documents. We have to reward good behavior and avoid or penalize bad behavior. It's important to at least _identify_ SiteGround and SoftLayer as the bad guys, along with Amazon, Paypal, Visa, MasterCard, etc. I'm almost free of Paypal. I still have to use Amazon for work; but I no longer buy anything personal through them. I haven't found a way to rid myself of Visa and MasterCard; but I'm trying. On the one hand, such constraints limit me in what seem to be important ways. E.g. Not buying MP3s from Amazon means I may have to buy actual CDs, with a bunch of wasteful one-use plastic and the costs of shipping (not just my out of pocket but also the carbon footprint of shipping from, say, Europe). Or, e.g., not using Dropbox, because it relies on Amazon, may force me to maintain my rsync-over-ssh nightmare. [grin] But I'd rather make my life more interesting or simple, than reward people for their bad behavior. I am currently looking for a new (cheaper) VPS provider. And I now know I will _not_ use SiteGround or SoftLayer. > On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 7:25 PM, Glen Ropella G1 <g...@tempusdictum.com > <mailto:g...@tempusdictum.com>> wrote: > > > https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/12/weakest-links-host-buckles-when-upstream-provider -- glen ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org