http://www.gimp.org/windows/
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Douglas Roberts
<d...@parrot-farm.net <mailto:d...@parrot-farm.net>> wrote:
No one has mentioned the GIMP (Gnu Image Manipulation Program) as
a free alternative.
Functionally equivalent, +/- to Photoshop according to lots of
reviews.
--Doug
I use GIMP as an alternative to Photoshop *all the time* but Photoshop
is the *least* of what I'd want CS6 for... not sure what Gil is working
on but I don't know any reasonable open-source alternative for
Illustrator or their web design or video effects and editing tools.
I understand Gil's irritation that his educational institution "sets him
up" for expensive commercial software... on the other hand, if he's
training to work in the field he will almost surely need skills with
that specific toolset. The myriad piecewise alternatives are great and
anyone worth their salt should learn *those too*!
I agree with Tom about the Adobe Paranoia, and I don't use their
commercial Acrobat stuff either... I was "there" when they hammered out
their strategies (early 90's) for PDF code-named "Carousel" to become
"Acrobat". I was trying to move LANL from a microfiche/film/paper
environment to a digital one... and Adobe were very helpful/friendly
(for obvious reasons!). The revolution they caused with PostScript was
key to many things, but the way they defined and cornered the market
with PDF/Acrobat felt almost evil. But then the "adults" in the same
general business (Xerox, IBM, Kodak) were already sold out and corrupt
(IMO), Adobe had to get successful first.
The efforts afoot with NeWS and NeXT at the time to use PS as the
onscreen rendering model was killer... I'm still not sure what really
killed all that (Owen, do you know?)...
With CS6 going for hundreds (educational) and thousands (commercial), of
course they are paranoid! I suspect that very few people outside of
North America and Europe pay a penny into Adobe's coffers... I'm sure
that market cash all goes to Pirates and Bootleggers and the Strongmen
who enforce the rules, egos, and hierarchy that go with illegal activity.
I knew Adobe when they were 30 employees on one floor of a building in
San Jose... I have to say I'm *glad* they pulled it all together the way
they did, their tools are stellar... but also... my cheapskate
(information wants to be *free* as in *free beer*!!!!) side resents them
nearly as much as MicroSnot. But I think of them more like AutoDesk...
having recognized a huge niche and worked hard for decades to fill it
well (for the most part). But just like international petroleum
megacorps, my life is apparently better (for the moment) because of
them, but that doesn't mean I don't mistrust them with my future and
resent the velvet cuffs they are fashioning for my every appendage.
Meanwhile, yes! use GIMP and OpenOffice, and everything else... The
megacorps may own the preferred *answer* but they don't own the
*question* or the myriad answers *to* the question! Viva la Diversite!
Let the broiling froth of innovation and invention emerge us some new
answers to old questions and perhaps even spandrel out some new
*questions* to the many paradoxes implied by life itself. (over the top
yet?)
- Steve
PS... In regards to my use of "spandrel"... "you can verbize any noun".
PPS and as a reward for Doug (and anyone else) for reading the whole
diatribe (or cutting to the chase)... I have a fifth of Stranahans
(Colorado Distillery) and a coolish (after dark) courtyard to sip it
in. It's time again!
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Tom Johnson <t...@jtjohnson.com
<mailto:t...@jtjohnson.com>> wrote:
Adobe does offer educator and student prices, which are
relatively affordable. But about a year ago I ponied up $140
for Acrobat X, via an educational reseller, and never could
get the damn thing installed because of the "Adobe Paranoia"
(trademark pending) in terms of all the often-conflicting
security/install hoops one has to jump through. I still have,
and use, Acrobat 8 Pro quite happily, but otherwise refuse to
pay the price for its products.
--tj
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Steve Smith
<sasm...@swcp.com <mailto:sasm...@swcp.com>> wrote:
Gil -
Hi all SFCC in it's devign wisdome is teaching Adobe
CS products.
Suficed to say It'd be handy to have at home-for eas
of completing classes-and might be handy later.
However I am wincing at the 600 Adobe is asking for
there latest software sweet ("CS6")
Any ideas where to get it a bit less?
Short of a bootleg/pirate copy or someone generous who
isn't using theirs I think the price is as good as it gets.
For the rest of us (non-educational), the price is closer
to $3000, depending on details? Wait until you check out
the AutoDesk suite!
They do offer CS6 in bits and pieces for educational as
well, I think... so getting one or two tools is a possible
way to save? The good news is that CS6 is a totally
professional tool suite and when mastered, you will be
prepared to play in the big leagues, unhampered by ad-hoc
or limited tools.
It's a tough paradox.
- Steve
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