Owen, 
Depending on how you implemented the program, I think most of these concerns 
could be avoided. In particular, I did not take Nick to be suggesting that 
everything we say is of importance, only that sometimes we seem (as a group) to 
produce something worth sharing. Thus, I was imagining that the person who 
wanted to make the summary began by selecting the emails to be integrated. This 
would avoid the problem of thread breaking, hijacking, and of using digests; 
well, it wouldn't avoid them, but would make them an problem for a human rather 
than the program. 

Marcus, 
Stop being a jerk. 1) Many academic types think about writing papers because it 
is what they know how to do. Would you criticize a repairman who, upon seeing a 
broken vehicle, thought about how to fix it? If not, why would you criticize an 
academic who, upon witnessing the development of a good idea, thought about how 
to share that idea with others? 2) Are you asserting that such things don't 
have value? While they certainly have limited value, I think history, even 
recent history would show that at least some of those papers and proceedings 
have been incredibly valuable. 

Eric 



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Eric Charles 
Assistant Professor of Psychology 
Penn State, Altoona 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Owen Densmore" <o...@backspaces.net> 
To: "The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group" <friam@redfish.com> 
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 6:19:34 PM 
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence 

A few minor tech points: 


- Threads are often broken (i.e. a new email w/o reply or forward) created with 
the same or slightly altered subject but not recognized by the mail system. 


- Threads are also often "hijacked" .. someone reading a thread sees a person 
they'd like to send an email to so they reply or forward the threads email but 
with an entirely different topic. This also is not managed by the mail system 
but the different subject is a help. 


- Many of us use "digests" so a response to the digest can be to any of the 
emails within the day's conversations. 


- Attachments or mixed media in the mail may pose a problem in terms of whether 
or not they should also be included. PesterPower definitely wants to include 
the comics! But not signatures that carry a company logo or something similar. 


Here's what I recommend: take an important conversation we've had lately and 
think about turning it into some other sort of media: blog, forum, wiki, 
outliner, specialized web page, triple-store (semantic web), and so on. 
Programmers and designers often do this to find all the surprises like the few 
I listed above. The first Treo was a block of wood with cash-register paper 
around it "used" for 2 weeks to prototype the mobile PDA experience. 


I think this is very possible. There are some nifty "aggregator" apps .. 
FlipBoard is one I really like. Evernote too. 


Good luck, I think this might be a nifty design experiment and who knows, end 
up with the next Big Thing! 


-- Owen 
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