Robert -
Meanwhile, I still want to know what space-time was expanding relative to!
<semi-serious> Relative to the concept of a constant (geodesic) distance metric (in Furlongs of course) calibrated the Speed of light (in F/F of course)? Distance == Time for Light to Travel / C . </semi-serious>

At what time (in femto-fortnights) after the big bang was our universe roughly one buttload in volume?

Hint: conversion factor is roughly 7.56*10E-06 cubic furlongs/buttload.
Challenge: What is the value of Pi in a spherical metric space (assuming the universe expanded from a point in the shape of a spheroid)?

Referring back to an earlier thread: Just because I don't do math doesn't mean I can't do arithmetic!

- Steve
Robert C

On 10/25/13 12:21 PM, Steve Smith wrote:

1,799,884,800,000 f/f give or take, in a vacuum.

Robert C
Terran fortnight, Martian or registered with Betelgeuse 5? And in *some STATES!* apparently there is in use an archaic measure for the furlong which varies by .000002 % which I suppose is within your precision and the "give or take"... I'm guessing the furlong is still 10 chains, 220 yards but their chains or yards vary? The wear on the end of the "chains" could account for more error than that, not to mention manufacturing variation!

"The nice thing about standards is that we have so many to choose from"
    - Andy Tanenbaum, creator of Minix.

Andy is also known for:
"Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway."

But I think it needs to be updated to Minivan or 9 passenger SUV.

In the spirit of "will it blend?" and "how much is a buttload?" I have to ask, what is the speed of light in "furlongs per fortnight?"

- Steve
So it sounds like during the expansion phase a lightyear was still a lightyear but growing bigger? If you were there how would you tell? My platinum standard meter bar is now a longer but still standard meter bar? Has time dilated as well? If so what does the age of 13.5by mean? In what dimensions could you measure these changes? [Confusion may be an understatement.]

Robert C

On 10/24/13 10:12 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_expansion_of_space:

"Because of the changing rate of expansion, it is also possible for a distance to exceed the value calculated by multiplying the speed of light by the age of the universe. These details are a frequent source of confusion among amateurs and even professional physicists."

-- rec --


On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Robert J. Cordingley <rob...@cirrillian.com <mailto:rob...@cirrillian.com>> wrote:

    Regardless of the poetic 'outer edges' is it possible what
    might be meant is in the context of a hyperspherical universe
    where the radius is time and is 13.5 by?  The center being
    when the big bang occurred.  Then the furthest object would
    be diametrically opposite and hypercircumferentially at
    13.5*pi bly or 42.4 bly away?  So in the 'now' being at 30bly
    away is chicken feed.

    Robert C.


    On 10/24/13 9:20 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote:
    Where is "the outer edge of the Universe" and what sort of
    observation would locate something there?  All that the
    original report in Nature established was redshift (7.51),
    age (700 Myr after the Big Bang), and a surprising rate of
    star formation (330 solar masses / year).

    -- rec --


        > > >  From the BBC at
        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-24637890
        > > > (today)
        > > >
        > > > /Because it takes light so long to travel from the
        outer edge of the
        > > > Universe to us, the galaxy appears as it was 13.1
        billion years ago (its
        > > > distance from Earth of 30 billion light-years is
        because the Universe is
        > > > expanding)./



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