Post World War II Germany was horrible for a couple of years with exactly the 
kinds of problems you mention, Nick: penicillin could only be had on the black 
market (i.e., from unscrupulous GIs); food was scarce; labor was mostly women 
moving bricks from bombed buildings by hand (die Trummelfrauen).  Then came the 
Marshall Plan. But Thomas Piketty has complained (to one of the major German 
newspapers yesterday) that Germany was forgiven its debts in 1950, when it was 
clear the country could never pay it off—only then came the Wirtschaftswunder, 
the Economic Miracle.

Plenty of blame to go around here. And if Greece is unmoored from Europe, you 
can see Putin moving in—naval bases, missiles, even. He’s a nasty character to 
get into bed with, but when no one else offers you a blanket...




On Jul 6, 2015, at 10:45 PM, Nick Thompson <nickthomp...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Marcus,
>  
> Perhaps!  Everything I hear suggests that even tho withdrawals are limited to 
> 60 bucks a day, the Greek banks will go down this week.  Am I missing 
> something?  I assume that a lot of people are going to starve, die of heat 
> stroke in buildings that weren’t designed for no air-conditioning, in 
> hospitals that don’t have antibiotics, etc. etc.  I assume there will be a 
> blossoming of far right and far left parties.  Rioting, and bloodshed?  Why 
> WOULDN’T there be?  What do you know that I don’t know?
>  
> Think of what might have happened in post WWII Germany without the Marshall 
> Plan. 
>  
> N
>  
> Nicholas S. Thompson
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
> Clark University
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>  
> From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels
> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 11:16 PM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Greek Crisis & Philosophy
>  
> “Anybody who lived through wwII knows that a heap of trouble can follow when 
> a whole people is thrown to the dogs, as was the German population after WWI. 
>   Or for that matter, the American South after the Civil War.   I am hoping 
> for a positive response from the EU at this point.”
>  
> Could Greece better grow its economy with autonomy?   Is it the same thing as 
> being thrown to the dogs?
>  
> Marcus
>  
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