If Greece is unmoored from the Eurozone, there's still NATO. The sharp end of the stick on that isn't Germany.
From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Pamela McCorduck Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 10:13 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Greek Crisis & Philosophy Post World War II Germany was horrible for a couple of years with exactly the kinds of problems you mention, Nick: penicillin could only be had on the black market (i.e., from unscrupulous GIs); food was scarce; labor was mostly women moving bricks from bombed buildings by hand (die Trummelfrauen). Then came the Marshall Plan. But Thomas Piketty has complained (to one of the major German newspapers yesterday) that Germany was forgiven its debts in 1950, when it was clear the country could never pay it off-only then came the Wirtschaftswunder, the Economic Miracle. Plenty of blame to go around here. And if Greece is unmoored from Europe, you can see Putin moving in-naval bases, missiles, even. He's a nasty character to get into bed with, but when no one else offers you a blanket... On Jul 6, 2015, at 10:45 PM, Nick Thompson <nickthomp...@earthlink.net<mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net>> wrote: Marcus, Perhaps! Everything I hear suggests that even tho withdrawals are limited to 60 bucks a day, the Greek banks will go down this week. Am I missing something? I assume that a lot of people are going to starve, die of heat stroke in buildings that weren't designed for no air-conditioning, in hospitals that don't have antibiotics, etc. etc. I assume there will be a blossoming of far right and far left parties. Rioting, and bloodshed? Why WOULDN'T there be? What do you know that I don't know? Think of what might have happened in post WWII Germany without the Marshall Plan. N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 11:16 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Greek Crisis & Philosophy "Anybody who lived through wwII knows that a heap of trouble can follow when a whole people is thrown to the dogs, as was the German population after WWI. Or for that matter, the American South after the Civil War. I am hoping for a positive response from the EU at this point." Could Greece better grow its economy with autonomy? Is it the same thing as being thrown to the dogs? Marcus ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
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