>From Tom Wilkinson on Facebook. I assume he's English: There are a few camps here. The first is those that voted "Leave" as a protest against the current government. They thought there was no way that Leave would win (evident they didn't read the same opinion polls I did), and immediately regretted their actions.
Second are the people who voted on the basis of personality. A major campaigner on the Leave side, Nigel Farage, projects himself as a man of the people (he's rarely seen in publicity photos without a pint of beer in one hand and a cigarette in the other). They didn't really grasp what it was they were voting for and now they've seen the numbers and seen how the rest of the world has reacted, have come to their senses. Boris Johnson, the other major Leave personality is well known too for being a bit of a breath of fresh air (He's the former Mayor of London, and could be described as "Colourful" - again, a different kind of politician) The third group (and the only one I have any sympathy with) are the people who genuinely thought Leave was the right thing to do after weighing up the options, and who have now seen a huge upsurge in racist incidents/ violence from the extreme racist right wing who took the leave vote as an endorsement of their extreme views. On Jun 26, 2016 5:11 AM, "Jochen Fromm" <j...@cas-group.net> wrote: > The NY Times has a nice overview how Britain has voted in detail > > http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/06/24/world/europe/how-britain-voted-brexit-referendum.html > > Regards > Jochen > > > Sent from my Tricorder > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Frank Wimberly <wimber...@gmail.com> > Date: 6/26/16 04:39 (GMT+01:00) > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> > > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Anyone from England > > > http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/683415/Angela-Merkel-BritainBrexit-negotiations-should-not-rushed-olive-branch > > Frank Wimberly > Phone > (505) 670-9918 > On Jun 25, 2016 7:53 PM, "Nick Thompson" <nickthomp...@earthlink.net> > wrote: > >> Thanks, frank. I will look for that. N >> >> >> >> Nicholas S. Thompson >> >> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology >> >> Clark University >> >> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ >> >> >> >> *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Frank >> Wimberly >> *Sent:* Saturday, June 25, 2016 9:36 PM >> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >> friam@redfish.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Anyone from England >> >> >> >> They're annoyed (pissed) but the latest news was that Merkel said "not so >> fast". >> >> Frank Wimberly >> Phone >> (505) 670-9918 >> >> On Jun 25, 2016 7:30 PM, "Nick Thompson" <nickthomp...@earthlink.net> >> wrote: >> >> Anybody – >> >> >> >> I am sorry – my message confounded an internal conservative party >> election with a national parliamentary election. The question I thought >> gill was asking was, “Shouldn’t this crisis lead to a dissolution of >> parliament?” The answer is, not unless a significant minority of the >> Conservative party votes against its new chosen leader. >> >> >> >> One surprising event today was the demand by EU leaders that the UK >> invoke article 50 immediately. Does anybody know why they are doing that? >> >> >> >> Nick >> >> >> >> Nicholas S. Thompson >> >> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology >> >> Clark University >> >> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ >> >> >> >> *From:* Nick Thompson [mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net] >> *Sent:* Saturday, June 25, 2016 3:59 PM >> *To:* 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' < >> friam@redfish.com> >> *Subject:* RE: [FRIAM] Anyone from England >> >> >> >> Boy, Howdy, did Cameron Mess up! >> >> >> >> So, he now loses his premiership to the right wing of his own party. >> Scotland, and perhaps N. Ireland, will now opt out of the UK in a few >> years, leaving England a teensy libertarian paradise under Boris Johnson. >> >> >> >> Gill, here is how I think the parliamentary system works. Cameron >> resigns. That precipitates an election for party leader amongst the >> conservatives. If that goes smoothly, there is no election. If that is >> bloody, and some faction of the Conservatives is willing to join Labor in a >> vote of no confidence, THAT will precipitate an election. >> >> >> >> Parliament is sovereign in the UK. So, a new parliament could do >> anything it wanted, including, presumably, not leave the EU. >> >> >> >> I think that’s how it is. I would love to be corrected. >> >> >> >> Nick >> >> >> >> Nicholas S. Thompson >> >> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology >> >> Clark University >> >> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ >> >> >> >> *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com >> <friam-boun...@redfish.com>] *On Behalf Of *Jochen Fromm >> *Sent:* Saturday, June 25, 2016 3:47 AM >> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >> friam@redfish.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Anyone from England >> >> >> >> From what I heard David Cameron messed it up. He failed miserably. In >> order to get elected and to get rid of his right wing critics he promised >> the people this referendum where they can vote for or against the EU. If >> people had voted to remain in the EU it would have been a victory for him. >> It wasn't. He lost. >> >> >> >> Most of the "Brexit" voters voted against the EU because they are against >> immigrants and want to make Britain great again, much like Trump in US. >> Unfortunately it will not happen, the British Pound will drop, customs will >> raise and the UK will slide into a recession. EU funding for universities >> in the UK will stop. It looks pretty bad for Great Britain, as you can see >> in the reaction of the stock markets. >> >> >> >> TL;DR Cameron messed it up and everyone in Europe is a bit shocked about >> the result of the referendum. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Jochen >> >> >> >> Sent from my Tricorder >> >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> >> From: Gillian Densmore <gil.densm...@gmail.com> >> >> Date: 6/24/16 21:23 (GMT+01:00) >> >> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> >> >> >> Subject: [FRIAM] Anyone from England >> >> >> >> Care to speculate what's going on with this leave the EU thing? >> >> >> >> I can guess but I might be wrong, I suppose I thought while the EU comes >> across as a discuntional family. I didn't know drama between England and >> the rest of Europe was so bad that they'd want to leave. >> >> >> >> places like telegraph aren't exactly helping matters: >> >> >> >> >> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/eu-referendum-live-david-cameron-resigns-as-uk-shocks-the-world/ >> >> >> >> So anyone from England have some opinions about what's going on? >> >> Also as it is reported in America it's a close call of 48 to 50% unless >> I totally misunderstand parimentarian best practices I thought that's when >> they called for another vote or a simple majority? >> >> Or am I wrong? >> >> More importantly can I still move there if a certain delusional Sith >> think's he can do some good?not a sith lord, just a sith, he's got all the >> makings of a sith, just not a good one. >> >> :P >> >> >> >> How's the beer and weather? >> >> Where's a good place to live? >> >> >> >> Anyway I hope all everyone has a day full of glory! >> >> MUCH MERRIMENT AND REVELRY! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> >> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >
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