Glen -

I understand that... though it IS my habit to acknowledge the things I agree on 
to more starkly expose the ones I don't (or at least I try to do that).
With a happy side-effect that more people will like you as a result.  One day, 
I'll wish I had spent more effort with the soft styles.  I know they're more 
effective.
This is an interesting discursion. I am not sure that soft-styles lead more people to like you, but I do think it raises the threshold to knee-jerk *dislike*. A lot of my friends in this world do NOT have soft-styles and they have plenty of friends/admirers/sycophants... self included, BUT they *RARELY* can stand one another... harsh meets harsh and one or both kneejerk response triggers the other kneejerk and well, you know the rest!
Enough With This Basic Income Bullshit
https://salon.thefamily.co/enough-with-this-basic-income-bullshit-a6bc92e8286b#.1xcadg3vf
I'm reading it now, though the rich hyperlinking to interesting side topics and references is 
causing some intellectual ablation!   I've come to recognize something like a "0th world 
problem" which are issues that are even more abstract and relatively empty than "1st 
world problems"...   That is what I'd call my experience with this rich offering you made.  
thefamily.co is all new to me BTW... thanks for that too!
I agree.  But what is the oligarchist supposed to do?  We can't leave all that 
abstract sophistry to the peasants.  They'd thoroughly mess it up. >8^)  
Seriously, though, whoever sees the problem is responsible for solving the 
problem.  So, 0th world problems must be solved by those who see them.
I don't need to solve 0th world problems, just recognize them like an impressive wave and catch it just right to surf it all the way in to the beach...

   But it's also dangerous to argue that some event/process would have happened 
regardless.  That's a typical flaw of my libertarian friends who'll claim that advances 
like artificial hearts or whatnot, despite being government funded, would have emerged 
even without government funding.  Criticalities (like "great people") probably 
do play some/much role in some/many cases.  I'm simply skeptical that we can tease out 
which cases.
I think this is an acute example of the things dual/hybrid models which include both 
discrete (particle, agent, etc) and continuous (field, patch, etc.).  I am hypothesizing 
that the individual (great person) does less in their direct role, exercising their 
personal/professional agency than they do by setting a tone, representing an ideal... and 
that doesn't just include their sycophantic followers, it includes their vitriolic 
opponents as well... those who "rise up against".  I think a good deal of our 
gridlock in the government was a reaction to Obama both as a black man and as a 
(presumed) liberal, more than anything he specifically did or did not do.
Damnit, I agree again. [sigh]  But I can disagree obliquely by carrying it 
further.  The individual is merely a phenomenon (well, set of phenomena), an 
effect of the underlying cause(s).  In that sense, we can toss out free will 
entirely and say that the individual (great or not) does no tone setting (or 
anything else) in any generative sense.  They are simply 1 observable feature 
of the great machine.  And the only reason we perceive that feature as somehow 
distinguishable from the rest is because of our limited powers of perception.
Well, that is one perspective...

Hence, Obama did nothing, at least nothing whose sole cause resides within him 
... just as neither you nor I ever do anything.  It's (we're) all just patterns 
in the ambience.
Well... yes... on a good (or bad) day I can imagine this, right up with six-impossible-things before breakfast with a double helping of solopsism...
What is more puzzling to me is why/how "we the people" can continue to *pretend* we are 
unhappy with the status quo while all but *citing* the status quo as the motivation for our 
behaviour?  "I HATE our polarized two party system but I won't even LOOK at the third parties 
because THEY are not viable in our current context!"  What?  How will they ever BECOME viable 
if you won't give them any consideration?   For me, this moment of clear and extreme disaffection 
with the party in the first part and the party in the second part, is the perfect opportunity to 
make some inroads into the very change we *claim* we want.  Oh well.
But this is the same feature that allows us to think up new ideas, invent new machines, 
tell stories of unicorns and fairies with a straight face.  This is why everyone knows 
too much sugar is bad, but insists on its presence in every food anyway.  Our drive to 
have our cake and eat it, too, is what propels us to greater and greater heights.  
When/if we admit the game is zero-sum, we either give up or become ruthless sociopaths.  
I like Walt Whitman's aphorism the best: "I am large. I contain multitudes."
I *hate* to admit that you are right... at least that this is the stuff of transcending our own context... but sometimes I think it also is what freezes us in that context. We tie a heavy chain around our ankle and then whine that we can hardly keep our head above water treading... If this kind of self-handicapping makes us into olympic swimmers, then I suppose I'm all for it... but it reminds me a bit too much of Vonnegut's "breakfast of champions" theme!

- steve


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