Hmm. In my own words: perhaps you've known people who "fall to pieces" when the object of their attachment isn't present. This often causes that "object" to flee. Think of boy-girl relationships in adolescence which sometimes are messed up because of the imprint of the past.
Frank Frank Wimberly Phone (505) 670-9918 On Nov 2, 2017 12:09 PM, "Frank Wimberly" <wimber...@gmail.com> wrote: > Lack of object constancy after childhood is definitely considered to be > symptomatic. If you don't believe something exists unless you are > experiencing it, including yourself, you will have a difficult time. > > Here is a link: > > http://borderlinepersonality.typepad.com/my_weblog/2008/06/ > lack-of-object.html > > I believe this is psychoanalytic orthodoxy. > > Frank > > Frank Wimberly > Phone (505) 670-9918 > > On Nov 2, 2017 12:01 PM, "gⅼеɳ ☣" <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I am (or thought I was) familiar with the idea. But it should be clear >> that the wikipedia entry is GUILTY of the exact problem I'm trying to point >> out. So, it's not only not helpful, but perpetuates the problem. Witness: >> >> "Object constancy, similar to Jean Piaget's object permanence, describes >> the phase when the child understands that the mother has a separate >> identity and is truly a separate individual." >> >> In other words, object constancy is precisely the false conclusion. >> Perhaps there's other literature that talks specifically about how the >> *fiction* of object constancy affects/retards future development? If you >> know of that literature, perhaps you could point to it? Or, better yet, >> explain it in your own words ... which I enjoy more and find much more >> useful. 8^) >> >> On 11/02/2017 10:32 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote: >> > You guys might be interested in the Psychoanalytic concept of object >> constancy. >> > >> > See >> > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Mahler >> > >> > Many philosophical discussions are explained by psychoanalysts in terms >> of object constancy. And the self is also an object Psychoanalytic >> speaking. The old Chestnut about whether a tree falling in a forest makes >> a sound is an example. >> >> -- >> ☣ gⅼеɳ >> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > >
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