https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/01/meltdown-and-spectre-heres-what-intel-apple-microsoft-others-are-doing-about-it/
On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 11:23 PM, Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com> wrote: > Hah. That’s pretty much the end. > The out-of-order-execution machinery has a (poker) ‘give’ that can be > exploited. > Of course it could. Probably has been in use for years. Wow. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 4, 2018, at 7:03 PM, Gillian Densmore <gil.densm...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I don't pretend to have some of the tech reading skills to have followed > that article well. Is what it saying is Intell CPU's are bad about making > sure it has enough extra hands hands to make sure they can do something > before doing so. And that basically it's possible to basically make a smart > are program that tells your computers brain it can do something and not to > bother checking, no really don't bother if it can do something > > Question: How realisticly likely (or do able) is that? and isn't that > quite a bit like many of the jerk fake websites wich spam Chrome/Chromium > browsers trolling scripts that say: your computer has a bug a bajillion > times so as the browers goes kaboom? On windows 10 almost all of them try > to look like a fake patch or flash update or something and make an obnoxous > beep or alert type of sound "your computer is infected! call MS tech > Support " If that's oddly specific I have run into that. particular one. > Their's probably others like it. > > So if I read this right: a Meltdown/Spectre style aholery tells your > computer a whoper of a story. Realy fast in the hopes, of burning through > more brain power than it has? Didn't we have this in the 80's and 90's? > Something like a DDOS and Ping of Doom and other similler issues? Didn't > they fix that after Anonymous found out how to crash the whole Sony Network > just bey changing their clocks?(and doing the same to Battlenet/D) many > years ago? I know they crashed battle.net using a fake patch that > basically told a whoper to blizzards (then) only clock, such that when > people updated to a fake patch it kept doing so (9999999 times a second > because the clock was lied to) > > I don't know what was more impressive that they could make a fake patch, > [and users didn't know it was fake including me]Or that no one at blizzard > or activision checked , or that patch bassically sat in 2billion peoples > cache for almost 3 months > > Please correct me if I'm wrong. Spectre/Meltdown look to be in the same > vane.but (possible) able to reak much more havoc. > > The technique of lying to the computers memory is strangely similler how > some game bots work. Is that for speed? or just a limitation of processors? > if you know. I am genuinely curius^_^ > > et.worldofwarcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Warden_(software) > > <https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=zNlOWtDLKqrAjwSvvaDICA&q=wow+game+bots+warden&oq=wow+game+bots+warden&gs_l=psy-ab.3..33i22i29i30k1.405.7040.0.7446.21.20.0.0.0.0.128.1941.13j7.20.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..1.18.1791.0..0j35i39k1j0i131k1j0i20i264k1j0i131i20i264k1j0i20i264i46k1j46i20i264k1j0i22i30k1j33i160k1.0.bv_7I0k1L_0#> > > 1. > > <http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Vm9K23B41ZAJ:et.worldofwarcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Warden_(software)+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us> > 2. > > <https://www.google.com/search?q=related:et.worldofwarcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Warden_(software)+wow+game+bots+warden&tbo=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiQ9Nva2r_YAhXWqYMKHYd1Dp0QHwgtMAA> > > > For example on the legit side:Warden (WarCrafts memory and saftey system) > helps tell legit bots (called mobs and NPC's) what to do. It's possible to > mis-lead Warden in a simillar way as spectre, Some scripting stunts (cache > from LUA for example) > > can at ask Warden what it's thinging about (IF ha ha haha the Warden+LuA > key chained API hahahahah hasn't changed a running joke for LUA > enthusiasts because it will ) > > On the good side that meens realy bad ass things like tweaking textures or > how some stuff to just your computer looks, or adding nice quality of life > things. > > However some people use that to cheat well beyond what the company allows > and I can't help but wonder if iSpectre/Meltdown use simillar tricks just > because the way it looks to work to me is very simillar to how some game > bots and Mobs work. > > > > On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 5:10 PM, cody dooderson <d00d3r...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Does anyone know if the Ethereum cryptocurrency is affected by these >> bugs? I think it has some sort of distributed scripting based on >> javascript. >> >> Cody Smith >> >> On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 3:26 PM, glen ep ropella <g...@tempusdictum.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I'm sure you're all already aware... But just in case: >>> >>> Reading privileged memory with a side-channel >>> https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2018/01/reading-privi >>> leged-memory-with-side.html >>> >>> -- >>> glen >>> >>> >>> ============================================================ >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >>> to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >>> >> >> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >> > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >
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