Freud (bad word) tried to answer the last question in "Future of an Illusion".
Frank ---- Frank Wimberly www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2 Phone (505) 670-9918 On Feb 20, 2018 3:41 PM, "Prof David West" <profw...@fastmail.fm> wrote: > High heels and platform shoes were originally a male fashion statement. > Louis XIV fancied himself a dancer and made skin tight, body revealing > clothing de rigueur for everyone at court just so he could show of his > beautiful legs. There are numerous cultures — some, who were able to avoid > the pollution of missionaries, are still extant — where it is the males who > wear beads and feathers and oil their exposed skin to attract females. Ever > hear of penis sheaths? how about cod pieces? > > With all due respect to Nick — whom I love like a father (well brother as > we are not that different in age) — and all the other serious evopsych > researchers; I just cannot buy a biological explanation, even a > biological-root explanation for phenomena that change in time frames orders > of magnitude shorter than those required by biological evolution. > > An example of the kind of question that I think evopsych could be > profitably employed would be: why is it that, in all the hunter-gatherer > societies studied by anthropologists, it is the case that women gather and > men hunt? > > A class of questions that could (IMHO) very well be informed by evopsych > research: why does welfare beget more welfare? why does sexual suppression > beget violence expression (a corollary to the last one would be why does > imminent peril increase sexual arousal); why are humans so xenophobic; why > do all cultures, including prehistoric, incorporate some kind of belief in > the "supernatural?" An answer to the last one might provide some insight > into why humans cannot evolve past the need for "God" and "religion." > > davew > > > On Tue, Feb 20, 2018, at 2:15 PM, uǝlƃ ☣ wrote: > > > > On 02/20/2018 12:26 PM, Steven A Smith wrote: > > > I doubt that Nick nor I believe that *every* thought is traceable back > > > to some prehistoric evolutionary trait". > > > > 8^) I know. I'm just trolling you. But the bait I'm trying to use is > > important. > > > > > Female "display" is the one I identified here. And it *definitely* > > > doesn't rule out precisely what you say in the next paragraph being at > > > work as well. I don't think the two are mutually exclusive. > > > > Right, which is why this is in the sub-thread started by Frank. > > Artificial discretization seems rampant. Why would we talk about things > > like "female display" or "alpha male" when there are MUCH more obvious > > things to talk about like oxytocin and dopamine? As Dave points out, > > why would we talk about evopsych when we can talk about biology? > > > > Feelings of belonging, love, and satisfaction can come from playing > > blackjack *or* coddling one's baby. Women might show their arms because > > all the designers make clothing that bares arms *or* because they want > > to be provocative or both or for other reasons. Why do we feel the need > > to trace one motivation to biology (and a phylogenetic tree) but not the > > other? > > > > -- > > ☣ uǝlƃ > > > > ============================================================ > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
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