I don't know if this helps but these group-experiences seem to me to have the feature of phase-lock, canalization, and entrainment.
I recently *re*watched a surreal dystopian scandinavian film "The Bothersome Man" where the protaganist finds himself (after a suicide/attempt) delivered to a city/job/context where everyone is functioning in a *nearly* normal way, but in every case, it feels as if they are following templates/scripts rather than exploring a complex phase space with interesting attractors. Maybe you had to be there, but I feel like this movie exposed precisely what we are talking about here through presenting it's complement. - Steve Den brysomme mannen: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0808185/ https://tubitv.com/movies/456289/the_bothersome_man On 1/16/19 3:56 PM, uǝlƃ ☣ wrote: > That's fine. But it doesn't directly address the point. Is > experience-being-with-other-people really an "attractor" in the sense we > usually use that term? I don't think so. I think the normal (complexity > fanboi) sense of "attractor" is at least somewhat reductionist/thin/flat and > not commensurate with phrases like "experience being with other people". > > If we simply decided these things are not attractors, then I think my problem > dissolves. > > On 1/16/19 2:45 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: >> Some people participate in intramural sports or sing in a choir. Such >> participation isn't about being the best at the sport, or aspiring to be the >> most talented musician. As far as I can tell, they just like performing >> with other people. It is about experience and participation. It is an >> excuse to get together. It is about being around people they recognize as >> similar to them. (I feel like Commander Data observing the behavior of >> humans here..) >
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