I don't think either of those are necessarily true. Math, like so many other 
things, is not a unitary thing that writes its definitions in stone for all 
time. Yes, a point can be defined that way. There are other definitions, some 
more general, some very different. And a square has alternate definitions, too. 
Just because you have 1 you like does not mean it can't be defined in a 
different way.

I really like defining square in terms of right angles, myself. That allows me 
to know what my woodworking friend is asking for when he asks me to hand him 
the square. He has many different squares of different side lengths (one of 
which is shorter than the other!), made of different materials, having 
different widths, etc. But one thing is constant, they all have that 90° angle 
staring you in the face.

On 7/23/20 3:09 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote:
> The mathematical concept of a point in R^2 is that a it is completely 
> determined by the values of its coordinates.  Same coordinates, same point.  
> A square per se Is determined by the length of its side(s).  There is no 
> information about it's location.


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