FWIW and then similarly someone came up with:
/*It's those with insight who must make the concessions*/.
(which sucks).
On "half the country is batshit crazy" - to be generous a big percentage
of voters were struggling making a living or making ends meet, raising
kids, making payments, etc., before COVID-19. With LOUD voices on both
sides I see a messaging saturation effect and voters making a relatively
random choice, or voting R because they always did, and this partly
because they don't have the time or luxury to figure out anything
better. Why else would races be so tight when a landslide should have
happened? People continue to not vote in their own interest.
Robert C
On 11/4/20 11:26 AM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote:
The fundamental challenge of being a liberal, in the classical sense,
is that it obligates you to try to understand the desires and fears of
those who disagree with you
Boy, Howdy. You got that one right!
Nick
Nicholas Thompson
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*From:* Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Eric Charles
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 4, 2020 12:18 PM
*To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
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*Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] election eve
" they cannot under stand why I am scared by Trump, any more than I
could understand why they were scared by Obama "
I know it's a bit of a tangent... but is that actually true?
I'm not sure I've ever found it overly hard to understand why other
people are afraid of things I'm not. Talk to people for a while, poke
and prod at their ideas, observe their behavior, etc. It's not
instantaneous, but I understand lots of things people were scared
about under Obama (some of which happened, some of which would have
happened if the Democrats had kept congress, and others of which were
never going to happen in a million years).
The fundamental challenge of being a liberal, in the classical sense,
is that it obligates you to try to understand the desires and fears of
those who disagree with you. The fundamental benefit of being
authoritarian is that it comes with no such obligation.
On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 1:05 PM <thompnicks...@gmail.com
<mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Gary,
If you want to live in the bubble for a few more hours, try
https://abc.com/watch-live/abc-news
Marcus, The message I am getting from those folks is something
like: "We tried rationality for 50 years and look where it got
us; let's try crazy for 4 more years."
I know two trump supporters quite well. Mind you, we don't talk
politics that much. Both are owners of small businesses who have
led the highly regulated lives that folks must lead if they are
going to make money in a politically diverse community. Both
[thought they] saw gains from the Tax Cuts. I think both think
the economic policies have been good for them and they find the
crazy stuff kinda fun. Like a bit of a wild fling. They
certainly don't take those things any more seriously than I took
Clinton, with whatsername under the Resolute Desk, while he was
negotiating with the Majority Leader. Tsk Tsk, I say and them
move on. That's what they do, and they cannot under stand why I
am scared by Trump, any more than I could understand why they were
scared by Obama. I once called one of my relatives in Texas
during the bush/Kerry election, because she had been born in
Massachusetts and I thought she could help me understand. "I think
that man is dangerous," she said. I agreed, thinking she was
talking about Bush. "Yes," she went on. "No telling what he will
do if he and the democrats get in."
Kerry, DANGEROUS? My god that man was scared of getting tomato
sauce on his polo shirt. But she really was quaking with fear..
Just like I am now.
The one I really am scared of is McConnell. Hitler got in because
the cartels that dominated German politics thought they could
"use" him. Look how that turned out.
Nick
Nick
Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
thompnicks...@gmail.com <mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com>
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
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From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com
<mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 11:24 AM
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] election eve
Yeah, the main take home to me is the same as before: Almost half
the country is batshit crazy.
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<mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> On Behalf Of u?l? ???
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Right. So both the guardian and nyt show called Biden: 227, Trump:
213 with PA(20), NC(15), and GA(16) toward Trump and MI(16),
WI(10), NV(6), and AZ(11) toward Biden.
227+16+10+11+6 = 270
213+3+15+20+16 = 267
I don't think there's a reason to be optimistic ... cautiously or
not. Regardless of which value the artificially binary outcome
lands on, it's the closeness of it that causes the problems.
On 11/4/20 9:08 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> Biden has got a 270 vs. 267 last time I checked, assuming he
can’t take Pennsylvania.
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