What started the problem (at least in the West)"

*"Then God said, “Let us make humankind in our image, according to our 
likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the 
birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the wild animals of the 
earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth.” [Christian 
Bible]*

Potential way out:

*Those who have taken upon them to lay down the law of nature as a thing 
already searched out and understood, whether they have spoken in simple 
assurance or professional affectation, have therein done philosophy and the 
sciences great injury. For as they have been successful in inducing belief, so 
they have been effective in quenching and stopping inquiry; and have done more 
harm by spoiling and putting an end to other men's efforts than good by their 
own. Those on the other hand who have taken a contrary course, and asserted 
that absolutely nothing can be known — whether it were from hatred of the 
ancient sophists, or from uncertainty and fluctuation of mind, or even from a 
kind of fullness of learning, that they fell upon this opinion — have certainly 
advanced reasons for it that are not to be despised; but yet they have neither 
started from true principles nor rested in the just conclusion, zeal and 
affectation having carried them much too far... [Sir Francis Bacon]*

*davew*
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On Fri, May 21, 2021, at 4:21 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote:
> Sorry.  I admire your memory.
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> On Fri, May 21, 2021, 3:11 PM uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Only about 100,000 times. >8^D The trick is whether or not you believe that 
>> sort of modeling is mechanistic or *merely* generative.
>> 
>> On 5/21/21 2:08 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote:
>> > Did I already post this here?
>> > 
>> > 
>> > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228446085_Simulation_validation_using_Causal_Inference_Theory_with_morphological_constraints#fullTextFileContent
>> >  
>> > <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228446085_Simulation_validation_using_Causal_Inference_Theory_with_morphological_constraints#fullTextFileContent>
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