It is weird there are orders of magnitude of variability.   I wonder if it is 
differences in spatial distribution of the different vaccines?   Ethnicity?   
Prevalence?
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On 8/10/21 4:43 PM, David Eric Smith wrote:
> I am sure it is just dieseling at this point, but I was pleased to see the 
> following article:
> https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/08/10/us/covid-breakthrough-i
> nfections-vaccines.html 
> <https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/08/10/us/covid-breakthrough-
> infections-vaccines.html> (I usually get to these things late; y’all 
> probably have read it already)
> 
> In reading the first table, on hospitalization and death fractions by 
> vax/unvax, I was thinking “okay, now since we have vaccinated 
> fractions by date, we could do a covariance plot, and of course could 
> then do more involved multiple regressions on dummy variables as we 
> could find them.”  (No pun meant on “dummy variable”, though I am 
> unable to miss it myself.  Things like measures of hospital 
> performance, coverage of masking rules or other public health 
> measures, population density and gathering density, etc.  Some of 
> these to be proxies for fraction exposed, which is hard to get at.)
> 
> But then that is just where the article goes.  It’s funny how a pair made of 
> a careful writer and a lazy reader can be an unhelpful combination.  The text 
> leading to the second table says "people who were not fully vaccinated were 
> hospitalized with Covid-19 at least five times more often than fully 
> vaccinated people, according to the analysis, and they died at least eight 
> times more often.”  I remember the nice passage in John Paulos’s book 
> “Innumeracy”, where (to make some point, which I now forget), he comments on 
> why a sign over the highway “Entering New York, Population at least 6” is not 
> particularly informative, though quite true.
> 
> Look then at the distribution of multipliers in the table.  For the “at least 
> five times” column, the first six entries, alphabetically, are 75x, 17x, 47x, 
> 68x, 22, 148x, 161x, and likewise for the “eight times” column. Ahh, if the 
> American Public would only tolerate being shown a histogram giving the whole 
> distribution at a glance….  Of course, if I were not lazy, I could find and 
> download the data and make my own histogram.
> 
> But, credit to those authors.  Within the bounds of what is permitted to 
> them, this is a useful data digest.
> 
> Eric

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