To me, they seem very different. Hope is more of a feeling, like anger or love, 
whereas optimism is more of a cognitive bias. I tend to be an optimist, but am 
largely hopeless. It waxes and wanes, but is usually swamped by feelings of 
overwhelming doom. And my doom helps me stay grounded, I think, in spite of my 
optimism. Interestingly, doom replaced the anger I grew up with ... somewhere 
between age 40-50.

On 1/10/22 08:14, Steve Smith wrote:

On 1/10/22 8:56 AM, glen wrote:
Right. I hope that's the case, not merely that some of us are more plastic, but 
that perhaps any of us could even practice being more plastic. But that's just 
hope ... hope can be debilitating.

I recently listened to Krista Tippet's interview with Desmond Tutu circa 2010 and he made an 
important distinction between "optimism" and "hope".   I wonder how much folks 
here make their own distinction and if one is more prone to debilitation than the other?

--
glen
Theorem 3. There exists a double master function.


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