< To me, they seem very different. Hope is more of a feeling, like anger or love, whereas optimism is more of a cognitive bias. I tend to be an optimist, but am largely hopeless. It waxes and wanes, but is usually swamped by feelings of overwhelming doom. And my doom helps me stay grounded, I think, in spite of my optimism. Interestingly, doom replaced the anger I grew up with ... somewhere between age 40-50. >
I'm the opposite. I'm very much a pessimist and expect things will go badly unless there are thoughtful interventions. But I have hope that those that drive us to the bottom will be extinguished through just such a thoughtful intervention. Hope is the inclination to climb out of the hole, but comfort recognizing it is a hole and coping while in it. ________________________________ From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> on behalf of glen <geprope...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2022 9:22 AM To: friam@redfish.com <friam@redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] gene complex for homosexuality To me, they seem very different. Hope is more of a feeling, like anger or love, whereas optimism is more of a cognitive bias. I tend to be an optimist, but am largely hopeless. It waxes and wanes, but is usually swamped by feelings of overwhelming doom. And my doom helps me stay grounded, I think, in spite of my optimism. Interestingly, doom replaced the anger I grew up with ... somewhere between age 40-50. On 1/10/22 08:14, Steve Smith wrote: > > On 1/10/22 8:56 AM, glen wrote: >> Right. I hope that's the case, not merely that some of us are more plastic, >> but that perhaps any of us could even practice being more plastic. But >> that's just hope ... hope can be debilitating. > > I recently listened to Krista Tippet's interview with Desmond Tutu circa 2010 > and he made an important distinction between "optimism" and "hope". I > wonder how much folks here make their own distinction and if one is more > prone to debilitation than the other? -- glen Theorem 3. There exists a double master function. .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
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