or commerce and navigability may be accomplished by a NM Stream Commission contract to continuously survey the waterway bathymetry with unmanned surface vehicles: https://www.oceanalpha.com/product-item/sl40/ _______________________________________________________________________ stephen.gue...@simtable.com <stephen.gue...@simtable.com> CEO, Simtable http://www.simtable.com 1600 Lena St #D1, Santa Fe, NM 87505 office: (505)995-0206 mobile: (505)577-5828 twitter: @simtable z <http://zoom.com/j/5055775828>oom.simtable.com
On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 10:16 AM Stephen Guerin <stephen.gue...@simtable.com> wrote: > Cody, > > Noticed that issue made international news and was covered by the Guardian > in 2018. > > https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/mar/15/privatized-rivers-us-public-lands-waterways > > I suspect you're aware but didn't mention is Federal doctrine of > "Navigable Servitude" that ties navigability to State Ownership that > prevents the riverbed from converting to private land. > > - See:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navigable_servitude > - > https://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Wiki/stewardship:navigability > Note from this article the concept of proving "Susceptibly of Commerce" > " If the river has ever been demonstrably been used for commerce, then > it can readily be found navigable under federal law. However, many states > have also accepted demonstrations that the waterway is merely capable of > commerce as proof of susceptibility. > > Commerce refers to the ability to transport goods to or from market, > or for sale. Commerce inherently includes the right of navigation. Commerce > and therefore navigation includes transportation of timber, as well as > transport by barge traffic or oceangoing ships. Some states have also > accepted evidence of use by a commercial raft company, or kayak or canoe > school as evidence of commercial navigability. > > If the river was used for transporting goods for sale prior to > statehood, then the river is clearly navigable by federal definition. As > such, the bed and the bank up to the mean high water mark are owned by the > state and held in trust for the public." > > It would be interesting to have a site to track craft GPS and imagery to > continue to maintain public ownership. The Realtime.Earth app could be a > kind of crowdsourced RiverView ala Google Street View. I also wonder what > would qualify as craft as navigation. Certainly barges with no onboard > pilots and dragged by mules on the side and "remote piloting" qualified. I > would think a legal argument could be made drone craft with GPS and > cameras qualify as navigation craft. Also would be safer given the barbed > wire obstacles. > > WRT to establishing commerce, we can set up a Culinary Mushroom delivery > service where supply is put in on the river (up or downstream as a drone > boat can probably handle it) and customers retrieve the Culinary (or other) > mushrooms somewhere else. Citizens can buy a Crypto Coin to support the > project as well as convert their Coins as they are backed by mushrooms. As > we've talked about at the office, this could be the worlds first Fungible > Currency and imagery could be sold as Fungible Tokens :-) > > -Stephen > > _______________________________________________________________________ > stephen.gue...@simtable.com <stephen.gue...@simtable.com> > CEO, Simtable http://www.simtable.com > 1600 Lena St #D1, Santa Fe, NM 87505 > office: (505)995-0206 mobile: (505)577-5828 > twitter: @simtable > z <http://zoom.com/j/5055775828>oom.simtable.com > > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 3:22 AM cody dooderson <d00d3r...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Forgive me while I hijack this rant to append my own political rant? >> >> Here is some background. I live in New Mexico, which is a land of very >> little water. Last year I got interested in stand up paddle boarding in the >> few rivers that annually have enough water to float on. It is a great way >> to see wildlife and avoid the summer heat. New Mexico is lucky enough to >> have a state constitution that protects people's rights to use waterways >> [1]. >> Our previous Governor, who was basically a spokesperson for rich private >> interests (AKA Texans), silently made a rule that allowed land >> owners (Texans) to put barbed wire across the rivers. It only takes a few >> fences to make a river non navigable by inflatable boat. That rule is >> mostly not enforced because it is unconstitutional, and unfair. It is >> currently on it's way to the supreme court. I probably don't need to >> mention that the rich landowners have much more money in this fight than >> the rafters and fisherman. >> In the meantime, our current governor, who is a Democrat with some >> arguably dictator-like tendencies, has started to fire every game >> commissioner who refuses to enforce the previously mentioned >> unconstitutional rule. There have been 2 so far [2]. I am curious what >> her motivations are. Is there such a thing as lobbyist induced Stockholm >> syndrome? >> >> Cody Smith >> >> [1] New Mexico Consttution. Article 16 Section 2. >> https://ballotpedia.org/Article_XVI,_New_Mexico_Constitution >> [2] Much more information with links. >> https://www.reddit.com/r/Albuquerque/comments/s3zdrk/governor_removes_another_qualified_commissioner/ >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 2:08 AM Jochen Fromm <j...@cas-group.net> wrote: >> >>> Let me try to view it from a complexity perspective: >>> >>> After the Cold War we thought capitalism has won and communism lost, but >>> it is not that simple. Now we see the drawbacks of capitalism too. >>> Companies in capitalism were forced to reduce their costs and all the jobs >>> went to China where most supply chains end now. Nature is exploited in >>> capitalism globally on a unprecedented scale. The climate is broken and the >>> world is burning. The world drowns in waste: plastic waste, nuclear waste, >>> e-waste, .... >>> >>> The system is not only producing trash, it even sells trash wrapped in >>> lies. Fast food corporations ruin our health by selling fake food and >>> paying their workers extremely low slave wages. They spend a lot of money >>> for ads and marketing though, but marketing can be considered as the art of >>> lying. Amazon has successfully destroyed all bookstores and pays its >>> workers in fulfillment centers not enough to make a living. Facebook aka >>> Meta helps to destroy democracy while Mark Zuckerberg enjoys his life in >>> his giant estate in Hawaii. >>> >>> Gil is right, the world is broken in many ways. Obviously we need to >>> support our politicians in understanding the mess and in finding ways to >>> fix it. Complexity science helps us to study complex systems on a large >>> scale, to understand how they work, how they interact and how they can >>> fail. The SFI in Santa Fe is known worldwide as a promoter for work in this >>> important area, even if it might appear as a shabby or boring building to >>> local residents. >>> >>> -J. >>> >>> >>> -------- Original message -------- >>> From: Stephen Guerin <stephen.gue...@simtable.com> >>> Date: 1/14/22 05:31 (GMT+01:00) >>> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >>> friam@redfish.com> >>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] One of many things the country is fucked on >>> >>> Gil, >>> >>> I love you, man. Maybe a little less gratuitous graphic imagery in the >>> rants. >>> >>> Extra points if you can tie the rants to some kind of Complexity >>> perspective - Not that that is too common here. :-) >>> >>> -Stephen >>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>> stephen.gue...@simtable.com <stephen.gue...@simtable.com> >>> CEO, Simtable http://www.simtable.com >>> t1600 Lena St #D1, Santa Fe, NM 87505 >>> office: (505)995-0206 mobile: (505)577-5828 >>> twitter: @simtable >>> z <http://zoom.com/j/5055775828>oom.simtable.com >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 4:31 PM Gillian Densmore <gil.densm...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> The maslows are just fucked. Reason number 99999 out of googolplex. >>>> To save myself a lot of mental wear and tair. and to save some on gass. >>>> I had hoped I could shop amazon pantry. for at least some of it. >>>> -a lot of the basics: breakfast cerials, or bagels aint available for >>>> SNAP,or even at all where I am geographically speaking. I guess bozo the >>>> the clown doesn't consider santa fe a real place. Welcome to club ahole. >>>> -Snack stuff is equally hit and mis for just being available >>>> -same for cleaning sprays and gels >>>> Oh but I can get my cookies and MnMs on all I want. >>>> The very fact that 500 some odd twats even consider a weekly alowence >>>> er um sorry "Universal income" as a question. Is just fucking stupid. If >>>> they can't even get around to, uh ya know fixing the economy, having >>>> universal healthcare and blah blah. They sure the fuck can get the havenots >>>> like yours truely a god damn alowence. my SDI from inflation just don't go >>>> all that far. And trumpster types winge about 'oh being lazy blah blah' >>>> .they see the news, they know, just as well as this list does. Jobs sucked >>>> a fat dick back in 2014 because of slave-wages. they suck more now because >>>> of that, and covid reasons. Plus fact is not 100% of people can work if >>>> they want to. Just not enough slots to do that. >>>> >>>> I fail to understand why it is that with a super fragile ecosystem home >>>> delivery is just a basic. Getting out for fresh is great. Telling what's >>>> left of air to get reked not so much. >>>> >>>> -Me the one sane dude left. >>>> >>>> .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- >>>> - . >>>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>>> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam >>>> un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>>> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >>>> archives: >>>> 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ >>>> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >>>> >>> >>> .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - >>> . >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam >>> un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >>> archives: >>> 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ >>> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >>> >> >> .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam >> un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >> archives: >> 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ >> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >> >
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