I agree. And that's why the criticism that atheism *is* a truth claim (a belief) is convincing to 
me. Standard caveats #notallatheists, obviously. But I find it especially in the 
"deconstructed Christians", those atheists that are really just running from a toxic 
religiosity. They need a recovery group to cope with their traumatic history. The problem is that 
their recovery group *seems* to orbit "atheism", whereas it shouldn't.

Addiction recovery methods often involve "substitution". E.g it helps to use 
nicotine patches to quit smoking. Or, alcoholics can drink tea every time they get the 
urge to quaff some vodka. Recovering Christians may tend to substitute Atheism for 
Christianity. It *is* a category error. But someone who is habituated to metaphysical 
claims might invert atheism and treat it as a truth claim. I think a lot of recovering 
Christians do exactly that.

On 7/19/22 08:34, Marcus Daniels wrote:
Glen writes:

< And that's something non-religious atheists don't really have (though they 
clearly *want* it: https://seattleatheist.church/). >

A support group connected to an idea undermines the integrity of the idea.  
It's culty.


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