I'm not going to watch Joe Rogan, 😊 but I think LLMs don't have to have this 
homogenous mean problem.  They capture a distribution, so it is a question of 
the inference procedure to sample from it.  What is the (beam) search 
algorithm, how deep does it go, and what is the sampling temperature.  

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From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of glen
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Terrence Howard | Full Address and Q&A | Oxford Union 
https://youtu.be/ca1vIYmGyYA?si=vhbtA5WUX1CV8LZH

Joe Rogan Experience #2152 - Terrence Howard
https://youtu.be/g197xdRZsW0?si=kFTa7lQJI1lKA6R1

I just can't help but wonder how many people, while listening to Howard talk, 
realize they're interacting with a sick individual (who deserves compassion but 
does not deserve gullibility). Or how many people are (like Rogan seems to have 
been) ... uh ... hypnotized by Howard's well-crafted word salad. In this LLM 
era, where many people, including some on this list, are enthralled by random 
bullshit, it seems like a reasonable thing to wonder about. Luckily, the clear 
cognitive power Howard exhibits puts him in some kind of rare quantile. So our 
LLMs, being driven mostly to a homogenous mean, their random bullshit will, by 
definition, match those of us within 1 or a few sigma and suppress the weirdest 
among us.

Being a fan of steel-manning, I'm having a bit of a crisis. The paradox of 
tolerance tells me that we absolutely must call bullshit at some point, even if 
it's not ruthless. Those Oxford Union attendees danced around egging him on and 
calling him out. Is this what the kids call "cringe"? Do we just cringe and 
tolerate it? Or, like Rogan, pretend to credibility relying on his weirdness to 
be so weird that it'll disappear into the tails? Or should we be deplatforming 
the bullshit?

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