I didn't know there were Max Planck institutes in China. I thought they were a
German institution. Apparently first attempts to cooperate with China started
in 1970https://www.mpg.de/16903179/china-historyHere in Germany Max Planck
institutes are known for excellent research. Max Planck institutes are doing
theoretical research, while Fraunhofer institutes are specialized on applied
research. They are named after Max Planck, who convinced Albert Einstein to
come to Berlin 100 years agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_PlanckThere are
quite a few British and American directors: Richard McElreath is director of
the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Ruth Ley is
director of the Max Planck Institute for Biology in Tübingen, Erin Schumann is
director at the Max Planck Institute for Brain Research in Frankfurt and Iain
Couzin is director of the Max Planck Institute of Animal Behavior in
Konstanz.https://www.science.org/content/article/do-you-want-direct-research-institute-germany-s-max-planck-society-has-hundreds-top-J.
-------- Original message --------From: Santafe <[email protected]> Date:
3/16/25 10:43 AM (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee
Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] MUsk + trUMP's = MUMPS If there
were institutional backing for this, I would take it very seriously. Thing is,
the European institutions already have their own stresses trying to employ a
number of people comparable to those that they have trained. I’m not sure how
many Americans they can take on, realistically. Also, how appropriate it is to
escape, even for those of us in the precariat who have to move around
constantly anyway. If they are people who want something better out of the US
than where we are going, the responsibility is knd of on them to build that.
Otherwise we just leave the 1/3 who think this is all a great idea with
posession of the territory and an unbelievable arsenal.I had something
interesting explained to me a few years ago, when I used to have opportunities
to make work visits to China every year or sometimes a bit more frequently.
This one was to the Planck institute in Shangai, in the district of Xu Jia Hui,
if I recall. The director was a German, whom I used to know about somewhat,
but whose name I am currently forgetting. An older, kind of disheveled guy,
and a no-nonsense, fun and good scientist. He explained to me that the reason
there were all these Chinese repatriated from Germany (and I already knew
several personally) is that during the Cultural Revolution, the Planck
Institutes had taken the initiative to shelter science refugees from across
China. Often their children were born in Germany and had names honoring the
place. One example was a high-ranking academiciaion named Hao Bailin, whose
name in his dialect could also be pronounced Bolin, and was so named because he
had been born in Berlin. Hao spearheaded the development of Complex Systems
studies in China, approaching us to help him do that because he thought it was
an important thing for the future. He ran interference for us for years, with
the establishment, to see that things got done. In years since, when I have
run into (sometimes shady, possibly military-adjacent or espionage-adjacent)
mid-career Chinese physicists around the world (a case was in PyeongChang Korea
during the Olympic year), I mention Hao as a colleague, and with surprising
frequency they know him from having been in his classes. Such a small circle
in such a big society. But there were others too; a young physicist named
Zheng Bo, who came back to run the department in Zhejiang U. (Hao was from
Fudan; long story of what the Revolution did to those two universities too.)
The science community in exile that the MPIs sheltered and employed, for more
than a generation, made an outsised cohort of those who rebuilt science in
China in the re-opening by Deng and successors.Many versions of living that
most Americans have not experienced heretofore, but may lie ahead for us.Eric>
On Mar 16, 2025, at 5:16 AM, Jochen Fromm <[email protected]> wrote:> >
American scientists who want to come to good old Europe are welcome here. I
believe we have better and healthier food too (which is not difficult because
the U.S. is famous for fast food and fast food is as everybody knows really not
good for you)> https://www.cartoonmovement.com/cartoon/scientists-run-again> >
-J.> > > -------- Original message --------> From: Nicholas Thompson
<[email protected]>> Date: 3/16/25 4:23 AM (GMT+01:00)> To: The Friday
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