Sorry for bending the thread and changing the topic.From a psychological
perspective I would say Musk acts like a spoiled kid who behaves like an a*ole
and a d*head, while Trump acts like a kid which was abandoned his rich parents,
became a bully that lies all the time and never learned to act like a
responsible grown-up.Together they are a total train wreck. I have no doubts
they will be bad for science, for America and for the world. As Merle said we
are doomed.https://giphy.com/gifs/brid-1hMhlrWWfXU77iYnBB-J.
-------- Original message --------From: Nicholas Thompson
<[email protected]> Date: 3/16/25 11:53 PM (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday
Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re:
[FRIAM] MUsk + trUMP's = MUMPS These contributions, interesting In their own
right , constitute the most egregiously bent thread that has ever been foisted
on friam. Am I being rebuked for offering lame Political commentary, or are
your guys just clueless?On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 3:18 PM steve smith
<[email protected]> wrote:
It seems to
me they haven’t this through so good. Thousands of NIH,
NSF, and DOE funded scientists out on the international
market. Add to that reduced regulation on advanced
scientific equipment and services. Augment with a general
sense of doom and self-interest and alienation from their
country of origin. Sounds like a recipe for foreign-based
companies to scoop them up, if not other governments. I
won’t suggest particulars, but I think it is obvious how
this could result in bad outcomes.
My molecular biologist daughter is in the breach/sights of this
nonsense. She dedicated her career to 3rd-world focused virology
(flavi like West Nile, Dingue, Zika) and is now faced with the
triple-whammy of reduced funding/interest in third-world problems,
reduced *health* funding, and the spirit that suggests as a woman
in science she might somehow have gotten her funding through DEI
biases. She is not a candidate for "defecting" to China or
Russia in this context but has been made crazy by watching her
mid-career colleagues defect from academic research to
profit-focused big pharma. She got pulled off Flavi's to chase
Coronas for a year or more because her institution had more
funding than they could spend and her funding was a little more
fungible... I think she can (probably) hang in there through
the current storm (years) but not clear and it might actually be
better for her (career) to move to a European Institution (though
I don't know if that is even possible given what EricS suggested
about demand/supply.
After the fall of the Soviet Union, I participated in a brief
project reviewing US State Dept proposals by (former) Soviet
scientists seeking an alternative to becomeing rogue nuclear
scientists for who knows? Seems like we are about to have our
own problem of that nature?
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