And "stories" being perhaps just "linguistic models" fit to data points
(re the recent Nick Noodling on number series)?
My own 5-6 degree polynomial (or more to the point 5-500 dimension
curve) when fit to the mis-remembered/recorded "facts" of my life wave
around all over the place with "overfitting". I am the blind-men's
elephant with his trunk waving all over 500D phase space?
On 9/10/25 11:59 am, glen wrote:
Well, IDK Lawvere (other than from that category book). But it would
be interesting to, while young, formulate the predicates you'd like to
satisfy when you're old. Renee' and I regularly marvel that we're
still alive. When we were young, we couldn't even imagine we'd live
this long, much less imagine what properties we might have. I suppose
it's that ugly diachronic/narrativity thing again. Like ChatGPT, we
can tell ourselves stories about anything. And we'll even believe
them. When I was a kid, "story" was synonymous with "lying". "You're
not telling us stories, are you?" - a regular question coming from my
parents. My response was literally irrelevant. They already had their
narrative of whatever I might or might not have done. Whose telling
the stories, here?!?! >8^D
On 9/10/25 10:47 AM, Jon Zingale wrote:
Wow, two decades ago. I wish more old people were like him.
On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 11:43 AM Jon Zingale <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
"""
I found this entertaining, like all her videos:
Part 6: You cannot hear radio waves.
https://youtu.be/0j4_-7rwWjE?si=9XKhErO03LQLPgvp&t=3910
<https://youtu.be/0j4_-7rwWjE?si=9XKhErO03LQLPgvp&t=3910>
I like the genre "noise". But some of my friends who are true
fans have some perverse tastes in music. E.g. a couple of them *hate*
what they call "noodling" ... like Joe Satriani or Yngwie Malmsteen
... mostly sounds like they're playing scales. They argue that chords
and rhythm guitar, as well as drums, are way more
interesting/entertaining to them. I find that somewhat contradictory.
It just seems like you can't really be a fan of noise without liking
noodling, at least when it's appropriate ... not gratuitous. But
apophenia's a thing. So maybe noise is an ultimate art form, where
the artist can intend anything she wants without constraining the
audience in their imputation?
Composers *think* they're generating these things. But most
mathematicians are Platonic. Maybe the composers are actually
*discovering* music as opposed to generating it?
"""
Noise is so wonderful. The only genre.
Honestly the album I have listened to the most over the last 5
years:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISG4YwnikJ0
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISG4YwnikJ0>
Lately, two other favorites:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWHLCHv4PiI
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWHLCHv4PiI>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ5ZvVZ4jWk
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ5ZvVZ4jWk>
The last one I learned about from Bill Lawvere when he and I had
dinner in Toronto a decade or so ago. He was telling me that when he
was a kid, he would go out into the woods with a military radio and
listen to the whistler effect. He went on to make an analogy to
Rota's generalization of mobius inversion. I thought it was really
cool and so he sent me a copy of a lecture on it that he gave the day
I was born.
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