Just a little peppermint taste! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkLsIGoap7Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOQu4zQqiOY
-----Original Message----- From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Santafe Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2025 12:27 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] non-sycophancy Yeah. Nice. I just got back in the country a few days ago, and got to experience the White-Nationalist ICE recruiting ads that I gather started fairly recently. Like recruiting ads for war criminals, or those who hope for the chance to be. I guess they are being run everywhere, as a quick google search shows local news reports from a bunch of cities in many states. The impressive thing is how belligerently, flamboyantly trashy it all is. It's like, anything anybody ever considered low, degraded, or depraved, they scent-roll in, just to binge on their ressentiment. If I were trying to think of ways to mock somebody for being stupid and ugly, I would never have the imagination to put together the scripts they use. It almost feels superfluous to spend time thinking about how to deal with the people in various offices, when they are ballasted by a sector of the public that thinks this is what they have wanted for so long and can finally have. Unless one could figure out how to rehabilitate that disease to any kind of state of health, it’s very hard to see what, short of a heavy collapse that just clobbers the whole country, will thump them hard enough to push them back into whatever corner they came bursting out of, and let the rest of the public get coordinated enough to re-establish some agency over how the country operates. Not that the “rest of the public” knows what to do; the status quo ante was the python squeeze that got us into this whole mess, and we can’t be aspiring to go back to that. But something short of the whole country’s pouring gasoline on itself and setting itself on fire would be nice. I have thought, too, that americans are going to get to experience something that many of my Russian friends have known most or all their lives: how do you go about trying to be a good and decent person, in a country with a uniformly bad government (corrupt, cynical, and murderous with no mitigating benevolences toward anybody) that you don’t see work for yourself to change? Eric > On Oct 7, 2025, at 14:48, glen <[email protected]> wrote: > > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fweval.org%2fanalys > is%2fsycophancy-probe%2fad51e9a522f01e98%2f2025-09-04T17-50-49-741Z&c= > E,1,RyTKGFwr1wjARn9k5vTd-WC-XLWBsqDCtuIl7B4-zdfEGde94UyemTKPbutU21Znk5 > UHrObUvCB4noUNqNJfjZgpEjXEqVt8KlXtEncB9g,,&typo=1 > > If only we could find the political will to amend the Constitution with > something like this. Or at least add it to Senate advice and consent. > > -- > ¡sıɹƎ ןıɐH ⊥ ɐןןǝdoɹ ǝ uǝןƃ > ὅτε oi μὲν ἄλλοι κύνες τοὺς ἐχϑροὺς δάκνουσιν, ἐγὰ δὲ τοὺς φίλους, ἵνα σώσω. > > > .- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / ... > --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-.. > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fbit.ly%2fvirtualfriam&c=E,1,WsJhBBEzhl4Emp0OeHreCWfiRO8EIVPL2PQ1gNiSEpJRDMSzLUs9-L8-F4glywSlllaQ49oWlGS3pLKPNuL6e1CkHV2hu_9I7YOTINrL6WLun7La_tnL-ubujbMX&typo=1 > to (un)subscribe > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fredfish.com%2fmailm > an%2flistinfo%2ffriam_redfish.com&c=E,1,_kUiLGJjVW5KQqOK1GK33ctJj9toy4 > Yy9GExZ6NG_G4vUSGOg14R21gzY4ZS1JVVgUHlE_wk7HpoooAKqKaGXtrBzsoX6dI_JxfA > zxUYrkwmQq_QlItJ&typo=1 FRIAM-COMIC > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2ffriam-comic.blogspo > t.com%2f&c=E,1,HZq7rIvmH9nMFgskbWRGcIVY3WkkRcUdKPHnPBNulFiNN8iibGBGe01 > VT-ccRtZDQ9DErSnuVGtLEH2WCbMnDDZbbXMACNOrszHPif7ZOHqISw,,&typo=1 > archives: 5/2017 thru present > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fredfish.com%2fpipe > rmail%2ffriam_redfish.com%2f&c=E,1,VGMa7K6Y_EU0wKVlWGY8HQSz0CtnSMK1w5k > YL3ROiLHaKgIonDT_ZEeek2UQMPc1huBpbQps2NdN0trtQF75MMYLdBMFAEq9bcqVES1WG > w,,&typo=1 > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ .- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / ... --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-.. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
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