Tx, I did read that article myself and it (also) whetted my appetite a
bit for (yet more) abstractions about the emergence of systems,
couplling and identity in that sense as well.
Hi Steve,
This was the Wikipedia link Glen had in this paragraph, in the same
post I replied to:
Changing gears a bit, I ran across the "as if" personality
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_disturbance>. I can't help
but wonder about a room full of agents "concealing their inner
emptiness, living *as if* they had genuine feelings and desires."
>8^D I'm at risk of Get-Off-My-Lawn, here. But 90% of the time, when
I'm in a room with more than, say, 5 people, it *feels* to me like
they're all philosophical zombies, maybe me included.
I don’t know more than whatever I might have learned to parrot from
reading that link….
E
On Dec 2, 2025, at 12:35, Steve Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
EricS -
I'd like to hear more on this tangent (identity-stability) in the
broadest sense (my focus would be abstract markov blankets, active
inferencing, "nearly decomposable systems") if possible.
Not sure if the abstractions of emergent self-other can be reached
from this discussion or not.
Back to Glen’s branch in the above thread, I could probably imagine
an analysis in which some of these distinctions do propagate up to
how identity is formed, and whether or in what ways it is stable or
unstable, as in borderline personality disorders and associated. Or
maybe not, and the identity-stability question is a distinct matter (?).
Anyway, thanks for patience or indulgence if anybody read this far,
Eric
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