On Mon, 3 Oct 2005, Randall M wrote: > Virus Friendly and phased might be to young to remember the old saying "what > you want the next generation to believe begin teaching this generation". It
That's a nicely worded brainwashing statement. How about having the next generation believe truth not what you want them to believe. Do you by chance work for Cisco or Microsoft "They're not really vulnerabilities believe me..." > is a known fact that the major cause of computer criminal acts is the result > of careless and uneducated users. I have said it again and again, the "User" > is the best defense any Admin can have. How is this a known fact rather than an ASSumption. Facts speak louder than words so rather than repeat what others have... well repeated some nice facts pointed out would have been nice. From my inference on your comment, that would mean every "major" malicious hack ever done was done by someone who didn't have a clue. The user is the biggest security risk and THAT is a known and published fact, not vice versa. > If she or he understands the dangers they will not click the tempting > link or download the pretty card. And if they take what they have > learned home with them they diminish the Botnet army. As far as "16 year > olds can pass the CISSP exam" statement, that's a dam educated user. Could they diminish any botnet army? I'm thinking in tunes of 16 year old with hormones out of control, acting up out of rebellion and I'm wondering if the mental capacity is fully there to not spread malice if they had the mental capacity to cause malice electronically. I picture some frustrated 16 year old using a botnet to take out his school because someone bullied him, Because his little girlfriend left him so he decides to socially engineer some crap on his machine. I'm picturing a 16 year old with misguided "morals" "nuking" a country's infrastructure because his brain is filled with crapaganda. As for the "dam educated user" statement, not to discount the studies involved and passions possessed by those with certs, but quite frankly those (certs) mean little to me considering I've seen those with signatures the size of San Francisco have a clue the size of a flea. I agree and disagree. On a side note I'm wondering what the ISC will begin doing in about a decade considering the statistics nowadays: "Growing at a rate of about 900 inmates each week between mid-2003 and mid-2004, the nation's prisons and jails held 2.1 million people, or one in every 138 U.S. residents" [http://tinyurl.com/dwplj] Perhaps abolish their "guidelines". =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ J. Oquendo GPG Key ID 0x97B43D89 http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x97B43D89 "Every man builds his world in his own image. He has the power to choose, but no power to escape the necessity of choice." -- Ayn Rand _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/