-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 They were murderers. Haters. Idiots. Motherfuckers. Religion is not the only excuse to be a killer. Please, if you're gonna make excuses, make good ones. People is bad for many reasons. Religion is one of the biggest excuses, HISTORICALLY, but it's not the only one.
I wouldn't ever consider killing you, or burying a woman and throw stones at her, etc... sorry, but I think it's time someone creates a mailing list for full-disclousure-ONLY (unmoderated, but with a more "you're out of here, buddy" policy). If anyone owns / is member of such a list, PLEASE, send me an email. Avraham Schneider wrote: > Should I remind you that the biggest murderers of all times: Stalin, > Hitler, Mao where motivated by non-religious agendas and were Atheists? > > On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman > <bua...@buanzo.com.ar <mailto:bua...@buanzo.com.ar>> wrote: > > The bloodshed is caused by idiot people, motherfuckers and things > like that. Stop the damn religion > of bein g an excuse for your country's desires, ok? Ig god existed, > he'd probably be thinking about > nuking the hell out of Earth. > > Alaa Abdelwahab wrote: >> Mikael > >>> This opinion is causing the majority of the bloodshed in the > world today. > >> What is causing the bloodshed is the unjust arrangements that are > tying to >> be forced somewhere, the same like your example after the WW I. > > >>> The argument can be made that Israel also tried peace, but it was > responded >>> with my bombings etc. Atrocities have been commited by both > sides, this is >>> an never ending argument. Both sides need to decide that they > want peace, >>> make sure they have representatives that also believe in this, > and then >>> they need to sit down and decide what to do, execute it and at > the same >>> time curb extremism in their own midst. > >> What peace they have tried? Did they agree on the tens of UN > resolutions: > >> - Palestinian Refugees have the right to return to their homes in > Israel. >> (General Assembly Resolution 194, Dec. 11, 1948 ) >> - Israel's occupation of Palestine is Illegal. (Security Council > Resolution >> 242, Nov. 22, 1967 ) >> - Israel's settlements in Palestine are Illegal. (Security Council >> Resolution 446, March 22, 1979) >> - Palestinian have the right to Self-Determination. (General Assembly >> Resolution 3236, November 22, 1974) >> - Reaffirmation of a Palestinian State. (Security Council > Resolution 1397, >> March 12, 2002) >> - The 1947 Partition plan of Palestine and the creation of Israel. (UN >> General Assembly Resolution 181) >> - Recommends Israel suspend its no-man's zone' in Jerusalem. > (Resolution >> 127) > >> All above UN resolutions and other tens of other resolutions to > deplores the >> Israeli terror attacks against Lebanon/Jordan/Syria/Palestine/.... > were just >> been ignored by Israel and instead they are just trying to force > their own >> view of peace, I don't call this peace. > >> Maybe you have a different definition of the terror acts. > >> When a man bomb himself and kills tens of civil ppl this is a > terror act, >> but also when a powerful country sends its troupes inside another > country >> and kills a thousands civil ppl this is a terror act as well. > >> Don't tell me it is doing that to protect itself. > >> To protect itself it should respect the UN resolutions. That > should only >> bring peace to the whole area and we all live in peace. > >> What I believe is that the UN should force Israel to respect its >> resolutions, the same way they did in Iraq and Yugoslavia. > > >>> This is the current situation, it wasn't like this historically. > Trying to >>> argue that one side is evil by looking at latest developments is > always a >>> slippery road. You just before said that there were 5000 rockets > launched >>> in the past 8 years into Israel? Isn't that evil? >>> This leads nowhere. > >> As per the UN resolution which defined Israel as an "occupation > forces", >> that gives the right to the Palestinian to resist. Any way they > see, and we >> all should support them. >> And as per the International Humanitarian Law "the Geneva > Conventions", the >> safety and securing a good life for the Palestinian ppl is the >> responsibility of Israel. > > >>> Force? As opposed to the parties involved here, I am writing/talking, >>> instead of promoting bloodshed. > > >> When I said "force YOUR" didn't mean you, sorry for the > misunderstanding it >> is my bad. > >> Brgds...Alaa > >> _______________________________________________ >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. 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