I already beat you up to it - you know nothing about their setup. You don't know if their infection is the result of a botnet.
I don't deny you know anything about botnets, I'm just saying from the looks of it you jumped to a load of conclusion without any proof whatsoever. On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:11 PM, xD 0x41 <sec...@gmail.com> wrote: > screwit, im a bite, i know my shit here.. > If i was not so smart, then i guess i would not have a modified ircd wich > is similar... wow i know.. just seems you dont know crap about c&c botnets , > thats fo sure. I think i outlined a *good* setup, as i have seen it, or > would not bothered to state the mods made.. is that simple. wwether it is > hard t code or not, is not my business, nor i care for.. I just know, how > they run, and, dont try bs me about what i do and dont know, because on this > topic son, i have plenty of experience, and could easily match this with an > AV spokesperson, and would not hesitate to, but what gains it to me ? None. > I am here for those who give a crap, you sir, no nothing, atall, about even > the controlling side of a good botnet wich, spreads fast. > Most people, simply do not want you on them, then the better ones, simply > hide as users on irc anyhow ;) > Then again, i wouldnt know shit ey. > gnite :-) > have fun trying to pick apart anything with me in this area, i will enjoy > tearing your anus out, word by word if i have to. > xd > > > On 11 October 2011 20:29, Christian Sciberras <uuf6...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> If you ask me, you sound like bragging on something you wrote. >> >> Either that, or you're clueless to what you are saying. >> >> Just because my younger brother won't understand 5 lines of code I wrote >> doesn't make my 5 liner smart... >> Applying the analogy here, just because they're possibly clueless to how >> OS internals work doesn't mean the virus is doing anything particularly >> smart. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 1:55 AM, xD 0x41 <sec...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Is obvious, this is a very well made executable :) >>> Or, set up well to spread and then hide, and doing so with even its phone >>> home, wich is normal nowdays, for example consider an ircd, it uses >>> PING/PONG, what if you change the rfc, and use ascii characters,then do this >>> to the bot, remove USER mode completely only allow it for set modes/opers, >>> and then try take the thing down, if it is connected thru about 40 different >>> ips and does not rely on dynami dns... >>> it is not impossible, it is happening now, and, it is also visible, >>> however, these c7c centres are so advanced, Ids are just not getting enough >>> info...you cannot do a thing on the properly modified control centres, and, >>> i have seen that code, it is extremely modified version of ircd... it cannot >>> be used by a NOn operator, and uses a totally different rfc to phopne home >>> etc, thus making conventional methods used atm, useless... as they will >>> loook for the strings that they know, and always ids will perform some >>> string of commands, and, then slowly the operator sees the servers, and one >>> by one he blocks YOU out of his network. >>> This is a dog eat dog world, bot masters can be exceptionallt ingenious >>> when it comes to these things, and masking an exe nowdays, is not as simple >>> as some peoples SFX rar kits :) >>> So even kits nowdays, can be way more advanced than 2008/2009 even... >>> there has been a burst of tech, so there is also a burst in virus >>> numbers... but, smart c&c centres, you wont take down so easily, and they >>> will move before you can even decrypt theyre settings... wich is exactly why >>> stuxnet is non stoppable.. unless the owner shuuts it down, it wont be >>> killed.. >>> xd >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 11 October 2011 10:45, Bob Dobbs <bobd10...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Michael Schmidt < >>>> mschm...@drugstore.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> If its bot net code and it is behind an air barrier then it will >>>>> never phone home. They >>>>> >>>> >>>> It already broke the "air wall" to get in. It can certainly do so to get >>>> out. >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >>> >> >> >
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