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----- Original Message ----- From: "JT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Shawn McMahon'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 8:13 AM Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm > This is a lame basis for your argument. You provide 2 vulnerabilities that > are old. Everything has vulnerabilities, I will not waste my time search ZA > for one, it's in there, it's a proven statistic. Now, explain to me how > having one of your uninformed users make a decision for every app that wants > to access the internet is better than plugging a router in and being done > for the most part. Which is easier? Right, the router is easier because they > just plug it in and go. You would have us believe that these "inept" users > WITHOUT ANY computer person are going to be smart enough to FIND zone alarm, > INSTALL it, CONFIGURE it, and then decide each time anything wants to hit > the net. Please, spend 30 more seconds and show me some CURRENT > vulnerabilities. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shawn McMahon > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:23 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm > > > On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 08:35:05PM -0700, morning_wood said: > > > > Theres nowhere for the packets to go.. and please, when was the last time > > anyone here had to flash a personal style router / switch > > within the past 2 years... dont go esoteric on us now.. > > Perhaps you should read security bulletins more often. > > http://www.idefense.com/advisory/10.31.02a.txt > http://www.opennet.ru/base/netsoft/993631863_204.txt.html > > That's just two. Should I spend another 30 seconds searching and get > you some more? > > Or are you going to argue that Linksys and Netgear are "esoteric"? > > > -- > Shawn McMahon | Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, > EIV Consulting | that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any > UNIX and Linux | hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, to assure > http://www.eiv.com| the survival and the success of liberty. - JFK > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html > _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
