Never underestimate the arrogance of power.
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joel Esler Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 2:56 PM To: Dan Kaminsky Cc: funsec; [email protected] Subject: Re: [funsec] big brother at school And this is why I am not a lawyer I guess, cause I'm with Dan. I can't think of any defense the lawyer would have. On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Dan Kaminsky <[email protected]> wrote: "In loco parentis" tends to be pretty powerful, but you know what's even stronger? Castle doctrine. It wasn't just the kid that got violated, it wasn't even particularly the kid that got hit. The school dropped a camera into the parent's home. "It's OK, I was just trying to secretly take pictures of your kid in his bedroom" isn't exactly the greatest defense the world has ever seen. On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Benjamin Brown <[email protected]> wrote: > Just something to chew on: A number of court decisions (press me harder and > I can search for the titles) rule in favor of the administration of public > schools in cases that would have otherwise been seen a pure violation of a > student's rights. These cases often invoke an argument of In loco parentis > for the administration. Though in every case I have read the rulings > concerned actions taken on school grounds or within close proximity. This > case involves school property (the laptop), but occurs at the students home. > I am curious how this shakes out and what the court ruling (and inevitable > appeal ruling) will say. > > My 2 dinars =) > -Ben > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & > Hannah <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Date sent: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 10:28:13 -0600 >> From: RandallM <[email protected]> >> >> > http://www.boingboing.net/2010/02/17/school-used-student.html >> >> and >> >> http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/02/18/24789.htm >> >> "A federal class action claims a suburban school district has been spying >> on >> students and families through the "indiscriminant use of and ability to >> remotely >> activate the webcams incorporated into each laptop issued to students," >> without >> the knowledge or consent of students or parents. The named plaintiffs say >> they >> learned that Big Brother was in their home when an assistant principal >> told their >> son that the school district knew he `was engaged in improper behavior in >> his >> home, and cited as evidence a photograph from the webcam embedded in minor >> plaintiff's personal laptop issued by the school district.'" >> >> Always possible that the allegations are wrong or overstated, but, on the >> face of it, >> sounds like this school district could be in very serious trouble ... >> >> (Cue comments about protecting children, and being willing to give up >> personal >> freedoms for a worthy cause, etc ... ) >> >> ====================== (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) >> [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] >> What you ... call a poor signal-to-noise ratio is the 'glue' that >> holds a community together, that lets us recognize one another as >> people rather than roles. - Anton Aylward >> victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm blog.isc2.org/isc2_blog/slade/index.html >> http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ >> http://twitter.com/NoticeBored http://twitter.com/rslade >> _______________________________________________ >> Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. >> https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec >> Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. > > > _______________________________________________ > Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. > https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec > Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. > _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. -- Joel Esler 302-223-5974
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