...or the boundlessness of sheer stupidity.
On 2/18/2010 11:29 PM, Tomas L. Byrnes wrote: > Never underestimate the arrogance of power. > > > > > > From: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org [mailto:funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org] > On Behalf Of Joel Esler > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 2:56 PM > To: Dan Kaminsky > Cc: funsec; rmsl...@shaw.ca > Subject: Re: [funsec] big brother at school > > > > And this is why I am not a lawyer I guess, cause I'm with Dan. I can't > think of any defense the lawyer would have. > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Dan Kaminsky<d...@doxpara.com> wrote: > > "In loco parentis" tends to be pretty powerful, but you know what's > even stronger? Castle doctrine. It wasn't just the kid that got > violated, it wasn't even particularly the kid that got hit. The > school dropped a camera into the parent's home. > > "It's OK, I was just trying to secretly take pictures of your kid in > his bedroom" isn't exactly the greatest defense the world has ever > seen. > > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Benjamin Brown<optik...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Just something to chew on: A number of court decisions (press me > harder and >> I can search for the titles) rule in favor of the administration of > public >> schools in cases that would have otherwise been seen a pure violation > of a >> student's rights. These cases often invoke an argument of In loco > parentis >> for the administration. Though in every case I have read the rulings >> concerned actions taken on school grounds or within close proximity. > This >> case involves school property (the laptop), but occurs at the students > home. >> I am curious how this shakes out and what the court ruling (and > inevitable >> appeal ruling) will say. >> >> My 2 dinars =) >> -Ben >> >> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon& >> Hannah<rmsl...@shaw.ca> wrote: >>> >>> Date sent: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 10:28:13 -0600 >>> From: RandallM<randa...@fidmail.com> >>> >>>> http://www.boingboing.net/2010/02/17/school-used-student.html >>> >>> and >>> >>> http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/02/18/24789.htm >>> >>> "A federal class action claims a suburban school district has been > spying >>> on >>> students and families through the "indiscriminant use of and ability > to >>> remotely >>> activate the webcams incorporated into each laptop issued to > students," >>> without >>> the knowledge or consent of students or parents. The named plaintiffs > say >>> they >>> learned that Big Brother was in their home when an assistant > principal >>> told their >>> son that the school district knew he `was engaged in improper > behavior in >>> his >>> home, and cited as evidence a photograph from the webcam embedded in > minor >>> plaintiff's personal laptop issued by the school district.'" >>> >>> Always possible that the allegations are wrong or overstated, but, on > the >>> face of it, >>> sounds like this school district could be in very serious trouble ... >>> >>> (Cue comments about protecting children, and being willing to give up >>> personal >>> freedoms for a worthy cause, etc ... ) >>> >>> ====================== (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) >>> rsl...@vcn.bc.ca sl...@victoria.tc.ca > rsl...@computercrime.org >>> What you ... call a poor signal-to-noise ratio is the 'glue' that >>> holds a community together, that lets us recognize one another as >>> people rather than roles. - Anton Aylward >>> victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm > blog.isc2.org/isc2_blog/slade/index.html >>> http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ >>> http://twitter.com/NoticeBored http://twitter.com/rslade >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. >>> https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec >>> Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. >> https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec >> Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. >> > > _______________________________________________ > Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. > https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec > Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. > https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec > Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
