95% of this thread is nonsense.

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100% of the statistics in my email are made up.

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Joel Esler
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On Tuesday, February 23, 2010, at 02:48PM, "Hubbard, Dan" 
<[email protected]> wrote:
>All;
>
>I am guilty of being way late to this party, however...
>
>Whoever started this thread where did you get the 95% stat from? This may be 
>completely off and/or irrelevant but I am *guessing* that the stat 95% of User 
>Generated Content (UGC) is coming from us. This actually is *not* email SPAM. 
>This is comment-spam in the form of web-posts into blogs, forums,etc..
>
>Just wondering if the leap was made from UGC to email SPAM somehow. 
>
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>Behalf Of Dan Kaminsky
>Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 5:42 AM
>To: Rich Kulawiec
>Cc: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [funsec] 95% of User Generated Content is spam or malicious
>
>On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Rich Kulawiec <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 07:34:56AM -0500, Dan Kaminsky wrote:
>>> All I know is that I have a couple of email accounts that get
>>> negligible amounts of spam.  Oh, they're *sent* huge amounts, but they
>>> receive almost none.
>>
>> But this is not the only metric with which to evaluate mail defenses.
>
>I disagree.  This is the only metric that matters:  In 2007, I got a
>lot of spam.  In 2010, I get a few messages *a month*.
>
>A MONTH!
>
>> Anyway, one of the direct consequences of this reality is that testing
>> methodologies need to be very carefully constructed.  Anyone who
>> just plugs boxes from vendors X Y and Z into their network and does a
>> head-to-head comparison is not going to get a true picture of how those
>> systems really compare: they're only going to get a limited picture of how
>> those systems compare at the moment on their network(s) on their ASN(s)
>> with their domain(s).
>
>Spam fighting as a product seems to be having problems.  Spam fighting
>as a service is doing extremely well.
>
>Who knows.  Maybe the bad guys are reverse engineering all the
>products, but can't do the same to the services.
>
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